Good laptops up to 450-500 euro?

Best at Amazon

"good" is an inadequate description of services!

Nokia 82c

And why "best" from the monopolist? So that the business taxes don't just end up in Germany, but cents of it go to Luxembourg? And then there's whining again when our schools go moldy. Don't be surprised.

I don't know what you mean by 'good'.

I have the Acer nitro 5 and I'm completely satisfied… Go to the Media Markt and get advice. Because I can't do anything with the word "good"

No, there's no laptop (especially new) in this price range for gaming. Even with stand-up PCs, the entry-level gaming class is just beginning.

Does it have to be a laptop?

Yes

How much did you pay for your laptop and can you send me the link and would run gta5 and r 6

There's a cheap and a more expensive one. I got the laptop for 1200 euro but in the cheap variant for 700 euro

https://www.cyberport.de/?DEEP=1C26-AXY&APID=109&wt_cc2=coma_leapsaturday_pla

even on sale here