What is important when playing a laptop?

Em
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I have a question and what does it matter when playing (what is meant by how do I make the game more fluid) so I now have a laptop with which I can play games but the game does not run smoothly what I have to watch out for when buying a cheap but fluid one Want to buy a running laptop (graphics card, or anything)

Ma

Without a dedicated graphics card, you can forget about it at Intel, the AMD APUS are quite okay.

Ce

Graphics card and processor are the main components to watch out for. You should always pay attention to the ratio, so a "bad" processor can't get by with a high-end graphics card (and vice versa).

Otherwise, it is helpful to have at least 8 GB of RAM (4 GB are still possible, but this is really scarce in many games).

Otherwise what you can do in-game is to lower the graphics settings and close unnecessary processes on the operating system.

ju

There are unfortunately no tricks or miracle cures. Notebooks / laptops are primarily designed for mobile and energy-saving use and therefore only have rudimentary cooling for operation with "braked foam". All cpus or gpus carry the suffix "M", meaning "mobile" or "castrated" in German

and so you can neither operate powerful graphics processes that are basically games, nor dissipate the enormous heat that is physically unavoidable in normal gaming pcs at "full throttle".

This is why there are built-in safeguards for device protection that slow down the system or shut it down completely if the load is too high.

buy a real gaming pc if you want to play demanding games. Or play "pac man" or something similar from the stone age of computers.

ch

With a laptop, the GPU actually makes the most difference. You should pay attention to that when buying.

If a correspondingly good dGPU is installed, you always have a good enough processor (there are bound to be exceptions somewhere; or you only play CPU-heavy games).

You have to make sure that enough RAM (8GB +) is installed. But then it is always the case.

Em

So I just need to get a new graphics card

go

In short: everything.

Notebook + gaming = expensive

That's just the way, under 1000 euro you will not find a notebook that will give you pleasure for a long time, especially the size and cooling are real problems. You can install components of any strength, but that doesn't help if you don't feel them, or the notebook is almost as big as a mini ATX PC for cooling.

But to offer a list anyway:

CPU
Dedicated GPU
RAM (absolute minimum: 8GB, recommended minimum: 16GB)
Cooling (rather too loud than too weak)
Storage space (not less than 500GB, preferably 1TB)

In total, these are practically all components that drive the price up.

Battery does not matter, when a game is running, it is all gone anyway, if you want to work with it, of course, it looks different.

You should also be aware that these notebooks are loud. But that's a good thing, because too bad cooling causes the CPU and GPU to slow down and you don't want that either.

I would not put so much emphasis on the keyboard and touchpad, I always use an external keyboard and mouse for gaming. In addition, there are always open notebooks where the keyboard and touchpad are on the bottom edge (I have one from Asus), which makes both of them unwieldy, of course, but there's more space for cooling and there's a battery under the keyboard that does not get hot,

You have to know how big the display should be. Most gaming notebooks should have 15 or 17 inches, but if you want to connect an external monitor anyway, it doesn't matter. However, the price depends only to a limited extent on the display size, but stronger hardware is often also installed in the larger models.

The thickness of the notebook depends on whether you want to play with or without an external keyboard. In any case, a notebook that is too thick quickly becomes very uncomfortable.

Resolution shouldn't be under FullHD. Display refresh rate doesn't matter either. 60 to 70 is completely sufficient, even if some others will tell here. However, both should have little influence on the price.

Since many people only have gaming notebooks around at home:

If you don't have the money for a gaming notebook and basically only gamble at home, then buy a good stand PC and a small notebook to work with. In terms of performance, this can even be cheaper and in any case you are better advised with the stand gaming PC than with a gaming notebook.

Ma

This usually works with laptops. Not.

go

Not quite true, you can also buy potent gaming notebooks, but you start at around 2000 euro.

Asus offers e.g. A model that has a 9750H and a 2080 MaxQ installed. They are also the "castrated" variants, but they bring some performance, but also cost around 3000 euro and more.

go

4GB definitely doesn't work anymore. For Windows and various background programs alone, I would calculate 2GB and the remaining 2GB are definitely not enough - unless you play games from 10 years ago.

With current games I would min. 8GB say what's borderline. Looking at the next 2 years, I wouldn't buy anything under 16GB.

Another very important point: cooling

If the cooling is no good, the strongest CPU or GPU will not help you because it will never run at full speed.

ju

These are just hermaphrodites and no longer real notebooks. These things are heavy, hardly transportable, so they can be operated just as stationary as a pc and have a little more cooling than an ultrabook, but still lose any benchmark with a comparable gaming pc.

it would be like trying with all your might to make a steam engine or a diesel engine with all the tricks and tricks of Form1.

2 more things: notebooks usually run on approx. 20 volts and have power supplies with approx. 100 watt power. Why does e.g. A large graphics card in the pc alone already 200 watts and the cpu another 100? How is that supposed to work physically? With a handful of candles, you can't create floodlights.

and why are water cooling even installed in high-end pcs? Because air cooling is no longer sufficient!

Ce

Another very important point: cooling

I would definitely agree.

go

Of course, such a notebook can't compete with a stand-alone PC with fully dimensioned hardware, but that wasn't the question either. This is about notebooks that can handle current games properly and that is definitely possible.

And even slim designs cost just a little something.
The example of what I just meant:

https://geizhals.de/...42320.html

Water cooling:

Water cooling is installed because:

It looks chic
It is quieter
The marketing presented them as great or necessary
It may be necessary for overclocked PCs

Water cooling is really important only for the overclockers. All other components can also be cooled with air, which (with a clever or unwise choice) can't only be cheaper, but also quieter.
For me everything is air-cooled and when I buy water cooling, it's only for the graphics card, because I want to decouple the vibrations of the fans from the case, they always provide a strange sound.
Maybe I will build a water-cooled PC for home at some point, but only because I enjoy building and because these PCs are very quiet.

go

Oh yes:

If you want to enjoy yourself for a few years, you should buy something larger. A notebook that still packs everything today can fail in a year.

Retrofitting is rarely possible. Many can increase RAM, but only a limited number of them.

The CPU and GPU are almost always soldered, there are only a few exceptions and they are usually very expensive and very large - and it's worth it. Also a stand PC.

SSD or HDD can almost always be exchanged.

But stocking up components often requires a lot of skill and experience with computer hardware, since the components inside can be quite sensitive. Some models have maintenance hatches, which makes it easy, but there are also models that need to be taken apart completely and that's always a risky proposition, especially if you have no experience with them.

go

There are very few exceptions where this is possible - but I have no example.

I only ever saw a model that only had regular hardware, you could swap everything. The part was also significantly more expensive than most other devices and it was hardly slimmer than what you can do with skill and a mini ATX motherboard.

So it does, but it is rare, very expensive and very pointless.

go

Oh yes: The voltage from the battery does not matter for the pure computing power, which is regulated down anyway.
Of course, it is relevant for battery performance and also a real problem in production. When it comes to gaming, I would put the problem in the background, because gaming with a battery never really works well.

When I evaluate a notebook for its gaming performance, I do it on the assumption that it is powered, everything else would be pointless.

ju

Again: why not buy a real pc for the same money, if you only play with mains and stationary?

"gaming notebooks" are nothing more than an ingenious marketing trick by the manufacturers, you have to let them do that. But viewed in light, far too transparent. Nevertheless they sell, nobody is forced to do it.

go

It definitely makes more sense to buy a stationary PC directly, but in some cases it can also be worthwhile to have a notebook. There are e.g. Some jobs, for which you travel a lot and always carry a stand PC with you is stupid.

That's why I added the part "Since many people only have gaming notebooks around at home" in my answer, because they actually only throw their money out the window.