I have the last few days really only problems with this notebook. This is an MSI GP73 Leopard 8RF with a GTX 1070, i7-8750H and 16 GB RAM. Well, I could have bought the Acer Predator Helios 500, which annoys me now, of course. My problem is that in Battlefield 5 I have extreme fps issues. I tried everything, nothing helped. Now I see that the Helios 500 packs the game on Ultra without any problems:
How can that be? I actually installed the same components. Can someone help me or is this just a bad substandard (2800 euro) gaming laptop from MSI?
Well, that's actually a problem with any notebook.
In your CPU, which is currently under extreme pressure from games like Battlefield, the laptop is getting very hot due to the bad cooling, and so these temperatures are not too high, the CPU already clocks at 50 ° C, which is reached very quickly no longer high, but often only runs on the base clock.
However, I doubt that it is so much better with the other notebook. Why you paid 2800 euro is a mystery to me, the parts cost no 1500 euro
But for this reason, a PC is always preferable, the temperatures in notebooks are always a problem, especially in CPU-heavy games.
CPU and GPU have the same problems with notebooks, which are usually very close to each other and are cooled by the same heat sink. Sure, there are models that try something different, but I would not just reduce the problem to the CPU.
Download the appropriate overclocking tool to monitor CPU / GPU load and temperature.
The important thing is to find out what is slowing down, you can see that one component is running while the other components are under-used.
The temperature is also exciting, because current processors (CPU and GPU) clock automatically at too high temperatures. This is often the case with notebooks, as they suck in most of the air from below and generally have very little room to cool. You should therefore look how the temperatures behave and if the fans get good air.
If you can't get the temperature under control, you can also clock down the voltage of each component. That nice the battery, reduces the temperature and load and has little effect on the actual performance.
Apart from that, the settings in Battlefield are important, so you need to sync them before you can compare meaningfully.
You're right, but the video card clocks down much later. I think I have read that this new generation of H-processors already reduces its clock from 50 degrees. Accordingly, regardless of the GPU. (Would make sense with Battlefield)
It would explain, but I think very, very unlikely.
On the one hand, many notebook CPUs would hang in idle in the temp limit, because they often reach such high temperatures.
On the other hand, the temperature starts only from 110 ° C +/- a few, to be dangerous. So as long as the temperature sensors in the CPU itself work well, that makes no sense at all, starting from 50 ° C down clock.
From my desktop PC (8700K) I can't confirm that either. If I overclock it to 5GHz, then it keeps it constant on Prime95, but I have to say that I have a good cooler that keeps the CPU below 90 ° C.
With desktop PCs you can't really compare that. But I did not say that quite rightly, at over 50 ° C, the turbo-clock is reduced, so he does not clock so high until he eventually just runs on his base clock with further increase in temperature. A real downturning of the base clock occurs as you already said only at temperatures above 90 ° C.
If you look at the video, you can see that the temperature of the GPU is about 50 degrees, which would speak for it.
However, the whole thing is manufacturer specific. You can certainly set in the BIOS, when the turbo clock should be reduced, which could perhaps help here.
I'm sorry I have committed myself. Of course, I only paid 1800.
Okay I thought so. Check the temperatures of the CPU. Maybe you can adjust in the BIOS from which temperature the CPU should no longer boost.
In terms of the temperature or the temperature limit you can compare both, because inside the same physics, which sets this limit ^^
But with regard to the turbo-clock this can of course already be, but I do not think it's really logical. I would have rather expected that the CPU clocks in the normal Turbo, until the limit is reached and then gradually reduced again.
My notebook I can't synonymous useful for testing that is already idle at 50 ° C and with Minecraft busy.
So I've just researched, according to Computer Base reduces the performance of the Turbo Boost from 3.9 GHz to about 3.1 GHz on all cores after 10 seconds. This results in 15% loss of performance. Nevertheless, the CPU should not really slow the game down. In the video, but seems to be the load of the graphics card in order, so the game should actually run without the CPU brakes it out.
What exactly is the problem with the questioner can probably only find out himself…
I think the video shows the other notebook where it is going well, so you can't use it
Yeah, but he has the same components. So you can compare with MSI Afterburner the temperatures and workloads and thus come to the problem on the cause.
Can't you, because that depends not only on CPU / GPU, but also on the cooling system and other components.
That is the question the questioner poses here
I've written yes, look at temperatures and workloads. The video is the best comparison as it should be. Maybe there's just a driver problem.
The questioner asks why it does not work for him, so he has to match on the basis of the video what's different with him. Is it the temperature of the CPU / GPU, maybe just the GPU's usage? That is what it is now to find out.
Joa, about that I've written in my answer too
So far there was no answer to it, let's see
Yes, that's right. Let's wait…
Probably your laptop overheats and therefore clocks down = less power. Look how much the components are busy and how warm they become. A cooling pad can help.
