Laptop good? - 1

Al
- in Asus
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I would like to know if my laptop is still good, so I'll write everything in here

CPU: 2x Intel celeron N2840 2.16Ghz Gaming mode has 2.6Ghz

Ram: 8Gb

Kubuntu 04/21

Internal memory: 500Gb

External hard drive: 4000GB / 4TB

Battery: ASUSTeK X453-42 lithium pay

Voltage 7.60V

OpenGL 3.0

Atom processor Z36xxx / Z37xxx Series

Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel (R) HD Graphics (BYT)

Kernel module: i915

Ps Hab Linux and Xonotic runs on medium graphics at about 50-160Fps

-Is 4 years old

Mo

He's still okay

go

Unfortunately, no. The Celerons are all from Intel energy-saving and not very powerful processors, if you want to game the CPU is too weak, the gpu certainly not. The RAM was up to date in size at that time

cr

He goes for office but is screwed for gaming

go

If you wanna game That's enough for Office

Br

The Celeron N2840 was already a lame crutch when it was released in 2014, but for Office and web research it is still sufficient with a lean operating system, which you already use with Linux. (especially if the internal drive is already an SSD)

Al

I had win 8.1 then 10 and from 10 it was so slow that I switched to Kubuntu. Currently, I get on well with school etc. But gaming is only possible in 2d games or xonotic on medium graphics

Al

Can I install a new CPU and graphics card because the RAM was also rebuilt for me

Al

Ok, thanks, can I convert the cpu? Or overclock

go

No. That goes in no laptop, except in barebones and the cost 5000 and are 4 cm thick, sorry. The soldered CPU and so tight

Al

Ok thanks could I make the lappy the overclock or somehow faster?

go

You won't get it any more suitable for gaming, overclocking laptops is a bad idea because of the cooling and the smaller power supply. You can generally get it faster with an ssd if you have a slot for an m2 pcie ssd

Al

Ok could I use the one Seagate Expansion + as an ssd?

go

This is not an m2, but a sata. The fastest of all are the pcie m2 models, which are good and ten times as fast. You just have to see if the laptop can do that.

La

No, because you connect this via USB, you are throttled to the maximum USB speed.
No, because the Seagate Expansion + are usually HDDs and not SSDs.

Al

Hm ok are there adapters for cpus so I build 1cpu more so an adapter stop?

go

No, there's no such thing.

Al

OK thanks

go

Sorry, did I look at the first thing I saw on Seagate Expansion +? You're right.

Br

That's exactly why I wrote that the Celeron N2840 was already a lame crutch in 2014, even for entry-level / and sub / netbooks. The average performance is only roughly on the same level as Intel's mobile 2007/2008 - Core 2 Duos around 1.6 to 2.0 GHz.

Something like that ran at lightning speed in 2007/2008 with Windows XP and the Office and AV products of the time.

Even RISC processors with ARM technology for smartphones and tablets cracked around 2014/2015 with appropriately adapted software in the middle class segment, the old, mobile Core 2 and Intel's entire Atom series could no longer keep up with ARM technologies for its entire life.

If you then keep in mind how increasingly bloated Windows, the MS office packages, Adobe, AV suites have been with each new version since then, you just know about it.

Games with the N2840 are clear, but this is mainly due to the extremely weak graphics unit. With a stronger iGPU, the N2840 could also handle 3D games up to a release around 2005.

The Atom series certainly has one good thing: despite the roughly stagnating CPU performance compared to the 2007 mobile hardware, the platform was able to become many times more efficient and therefore more economical. Battery runtimes of more than around 3 to 4 hours were mostly still very rare on the old notebooks (office class) in the price range up to around 500 euro at the time, and batteries around 40 to 45 Wh.

Al

Which operating system could i use so that it becomes really fast again, like today's lappys

Br

With Linux you are currently well advised, and with browsers, organizers and office packages there are still "narrow" solutions for general basic requirements in the year 2021.

You have to consider the speed of the response behavior of modern applications "relatively" in the 2007/2021 comparison. Even with lean software, you will not have your office documents / calculations, presentations or websites ready for use on the screen within a second (or faster) after pressing a button. This was by no means the case in the past, even if a device was labeled as "lightning fast" at the time.

Even if you were to "fictitiously" couple such a processor with DDR5 - 4000 RAM and one of today's fastest SSDs, the processor would become an even more extreme bottleneck in such a system environment. With every program call or data transfer, the processor has to carry out a total of hundreds of thousands to millions (and more) arithmetic operations / arithmetic steps, thereby slowing down the entire infrastructure itself.

Sometimes very much exaggerated to the N2840:

Have you ever tried to empty a watering can using a syringe cannula compared to emptying using the normal spout cross-section? 😎

Al

Ok and egpu would that spark?

Br

EGPU only works via PCIe-based interfaces with a direct LAN connection. For reasonably practicable use, the book would have to have Thunderbolt or USB C / USB 3.2 - Gen2.

https://www.techstage.de/ratgeber/ratgeber-egpu-2020-grafik-power-fur-laptops/5vhnv1j

All other approaches have never really worked so far.

Al

I have thunderbolt

Br

Which notebook do you have exactly? I think TB on a Book with a Celeron N2840 is extremely unlikely.

Al

Well in the system it says it has but I don't know for sure

Br

Even if your book actually had Thunderbolt (which I still strongly doubt), the bottom line is that you would be better off with a new notebook in all respects than you are now.

Which games did you want to be able to play with the current book?

Al

Eig only Csgo U d another game in 2d but that runs and I don't want to buy a new one because I'm really not in the mood to change and reinstall everything

Br

I really can't help you with that. Even CS: GO has certain hardware requirements.

But I don't feel like looking for benchmarks for you either.

Al

I should meet the requirement I have an intel hd graphic

Br

I also have an Intel HD graphics in my notebook, and even an AMD Radeon HD in my ancient desktop… But these are only very rough terms without any statement about the actual performance.

Even if your Celeron N2840 and my Core i3-4310m were both released by Intel for notebooks in the course of 2014, and both Intel HD graphics units are fundamentally on the technical standard of HD 4000 (7th Gen. Intel HD), your iGPU has next significantly reduced clock rates also only 4 instead of 16 "execution units" compared to an Intel HD 4000.

Unfortunately, some game manufacturers actually only publish such vague systems - minimum requirements without real expressiveness, which can sometimes be better used to wipe your but.

And now I'm out of here.

Continue to use your book for Web & Office and say goodbye to the idea of being able to bring a game like CS: GO to an acceptable function even with minimal graphics at 640 × 480 to 1024 × 768.

Give it a try with Unreal Tournament 1999, which is now also available for Linux.