GaminLaptop selection?

How much value would the laptop laptop have?
I need a laptop for the school and wants to play games on medium to high settings which would recommend the Währe

Selection 1

Asus vivoBook Pro 17

4GB VRAM

CPU: intel i7 8550U / BGA

HDD 512G Sata3 SSD

Ram: DDR4 8G

Graphics card: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050

and please specify an approximate estimate price in €

Selection 2

processor
Intel® Core ™ i7 (8th Generation) 8750H Processor 6x 2.20 GHz TurboBoost up to 4.10 GHzCache9 MBCoffee Lake

display
Display size39 cm (15.6 ") Resolution1920 x 1080 pixels (Full HD) Display style matt displayIPS panelSpecialityAcer ComfyView ™ Full HD IPS display with LED backlight (matt) LED backlight HDTV Full HD (1080p)

graphic
Graphics memory ArtGDDR5ManufacturerNVIDIAGraphic cardGeForce GTX 1060Dedicated memory6144 MB

random access memory
Size 8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz Form Factor SODIMM Built by 2max. Extension to 32 GB

hard disk
Number1Capacity (Total) 1000GBCapacity (HDD) 1000GBUmotion (HDD) 5400rpm

drive
without drive

interfaces
HDMIUSB 2.02xUSB 3.01xUSB 3.1 (Type-C) 1x Type-C Gen 1Card Reader

communication
Bluetooth4.0 Ethernet LAN10 Mbps, 100 Mbps, 1000 Mbps Wireless LAN (WLAN) Wireless LAN 802.11 a / b / g / n / ac

sound
FeaturesAcer TrueHarmony TechnologyHeadphone-outintegrated microphoneOther featuresAudio system with two speakers

domestic equipments
Color Black / rotinkl. Battery Incl. Netzteilintegr. Web cameraHD webcamKensington lock socketNumber blockKeyboard layoutGerman keyboard illumination

Notebook features
Dimensions390 x 266 x 26.75 mm (W x D x H) Battery life up to 7 hoursBattery capacity3220 mAhWeight2.7 kgNoteLi-ion battery (4 cells / 48 Wh) - Battery firmly installed

Operating system / software
Linux operating system

You better buy a PC, because you have much more of.

In the first, the graphics card is much too weak, the second is just enough for high settings. In addition, an SSD is missing. The prices will be here even at 800-1000 euro (new), as the return on a PC is more.

I have a pc but I do not want to lug it to school fals you understand it is you know a possibility

Nonsense. The GPU at first is completely sufficient. The SDD is not missing, he just does not need it. He certainly will not bring a PC to school.

Do not be persuaded that ne 1050 is supposed to be too weak. With my 1030 I get 60fps in all of today's games.

A GTX 1050 is sufficient? → no.

An SSD is a must have for the operating system these days.

The with the PC is clear to me, but I did not know that he also wants to use in school / must. I never had to.

Everyone needs an SSD!

You are welcome to watch some videos about the GTX 1050, how much FPS you get there. I have one myself and tell you: that's not enough. 40fps in low settings in BO4. As an example.

I would recommend a cheap multimedia laptop for school, you do not have to play at school. For this you have your PC at home.

A 1050 is sufficient for all today's Spiele.Wenn I with my 1030 Hinkriege. Where did diss found on Propaganda.de? A must for the OS, nonsense. I really expect more from the community experts.

My words, besides, I have never heard that a laptop is needed for the school.

Who says that?

I agree with that. Perhaps for university or high school.

Sorry, but if the GT1030 for under 100 euro for all titles should be enough then I'm out of here. If you want to doubt my competence, since you know everything better, please.

I say that. Without a SSD, a new system just does not make sense

Yes that's true with not gambling in school. However, it also depends on the other stats. There are people who get 60fps at gta 5 with intel hd graphics.

Shall I send you a video on how to run smoothly without SSD Windows 10 or what?

The only problem is that I will not live at home

Nothing is better than your own experiences.

I work daily with laptops and PCs and get daily nausea if old systems have only one HDD as a boot medium and with your Gt 1030 you can play vlt in 720p all games fluently, the GT 1030 is the most unnecessary card, since even a VEGA 8 APU is better

And ne explanation is net?

That has nothing to do with each other, but an HDD is simply 6 times slower time, you can't change that with your experience

Then I would take the PC if possible.

If you can't do without gaming laptop I recommend one with GTX 1060 or better and above all an SSD! Then you can actually play all titles fluently. From the 1050 I would advise as I said, the 1050 ti is also borderline. After all, you do not want to buy a new one next year.

Yes, then it probably means that I have optical illusion. Can you now send me a reputable source where this is explained?

What do you want for an explanation, facts are not enough for you?

6 times slower is again completely exaggerated.

If you do not have a reputable source then do not want to discuss further.

6 times slower is the truth damn, a Sata SSD is 6 times faster with 500Mb read and write and a HDD has only about 80th A M.2 SSD has z.b. Read and write 3400mb CLEARLY more than your great HDD, so finally check it out, you do not need any sources, you can inform yourself instead of talking

Why should I inform myself if these are your arguments? Just do not feel like I'm too lazy xd.

Well, who does not ask remains stupid. Only spread here then please no nonsense that does not correspond to the facts, a HDD as a boot medium makes it no longer makes sense in a new PC! End: ^)

Also on the subject: Where is it DAMMED AGAIN THAT AN SDD MUST BE A MUST?

Because it makes no sense otherwise, so a must

It does not interest. Whether it loads 6 times as fast or not. My PC starts in about 5-10 seconds 50 euro for 100gb so that starts 2 seconds faster I will pay net.Da depends on what you with the PC / Laptop wants to do. An SDD is recommended but not necessary.

YES AND WHY?

You have completely wrong ideas. An SSD accelerates programs, ensures fast loading times, etc. In addition, they are absolutely cheap anyway, you are poorly informed. For 35 euro, you already get a 250GB SSD, so is a HDD nonsense, your system will soon succumb you if you do not switch to a SSD. Just see if you do not want to understand it

Please use the Google search before you unpack your "wisdom" here. I have 3 computers with HDD and 2 with SSD. If you do not feel the difference, you can't help it anymore.

With time, the whole thing is even more extreme, since Windows files many files wildly on the hard drive, there's the HDD, which works mechanically clearly at a disadvantage, even if it initially seems to be similarly fast.

Video evidence is nothing. In the video description is not even what he has for Stats.Mein PC starts much faster. As I said, I never said that an SSD is bad. I just said she is not a must.

Thank you again for repeating my words. For 30 euro you get a 1tb HDD and there you are at 100 euro for 1tb SSD. The system will not cheat. Windows 10 even runs with 2gb of RAM. There's no reason to that it should chop off. I'm satisfied with my PC and nothing will replace my own experience.

Unfortunately, you can't help it. You just did not understand it. You do not need a 1TB SSD, a combination of both is the most efficient way.