Am I currently paying 133 euro for electricity for one person?

Hi, I'm currently paying 133 euro for electricity from the city of Karlsruhe. I currently live in a 25 square meter apartment and save electricity as much as possible. Have a 90l bath boiler, fridge-freezer combi which was bought by a friend for 20 euro. No idea how old it is, a Siemens washing machine that already has ü8j under its belt and a Samsung TV. I have a laptop from MSI and a dishwasher. That's it. Have switch sockets with which I switch off the power when not needed and my question would be. Is it fair to pay so much electricity?

Water heating with electricity is just incredibly expensive. It would be better if it ran over the heater. But you can't choose that as a tenant. You can still try to save as much electricity as you can, but you probably won't get by without hot water. So you don't have many other savings options. And the boiler should already run at at least 55 ° C, otherwise it will be dangerous because of the legionella.

Achherjee, thank you for your tip. Man oh man There are 3 regulators in my power box for the 1 boiler, if I switch 2 of 3 off, is the boiler still functional and runs as if all 3 regulators were on, is it an error? Or would that be okay, another assumption was that my landlord lives above me and he is cutting off electricity in the basement because there's also a decalcifier running.

Remember that heating costs are already included in the 133 EUR electricity, so the electricity price can also be higher than for apartments, where gas heating is billed separately.

Nevertheless, 133 EUR is quite a lot for just 25 square meters.

Set the boiler so that the water is not "stored" so hot. So e.g. Only 55 instead of 80 degrees. Here is certainly the greatest potential for savings.
Heaters shouldn't be too dusty
With the fridge-freezer Combi, make sure that it is airtight and that there's no layer of ice in the freezer compartment.
Washing machine, dishwasher, TV and laptop shouldn't be a problem.

That's a lot. Is probably On the boiler and the old devices.

I pay about 50 euro for 2 people but don't have a boiler and newer appliances.

In terms of the number of liters of hot water, electricity is actually quite cheap.

I still remember student slugs with electric heating, which was another order of magnitude. Apartments with night storage heaters were also money guzzlers.

I would see if there are better ways to operate hot water (if there's gas, you can perhaps retrofit a gas boiler).

Ohh, I have to correct them, additional costs are currently also 100 euro there are storm and additional costs separately. Really huge for me.

Thank you very much, I would have to ask my landlord what I can do

Just about the spin of the price is actually normal. Know all of my friends pay around 50 euro at the end of the year. They even get almost 1000 euro back

Vlt. Should you ever think about newer devices.

Yes, but still an unusually large amount.

You are definitely paying too much! There are two of us in 80sqm, hot water in the bathroom comes from the electric water heater, hot water in the kitchen from the 10L storage tank, also electric. Ok, the refrigerator is the latest energy-saving type - it also cost € 1000 for it - but the washing machine is also almost 10 years old.

the rest of the electrical system can be neglected (LEDs and economical television.

We pay 90, - € and not with a cheap home because we don't trust them.

Get in touch with the public utility company and ask to check your consumption / meter.

If I have 2600 kWh p.a. When I enter comparison portals, I get annual prices from 700 to 1,000 euro. For you it's 1,600 euro. Something doesn't seem to fit.

I'm currently paying 133 euro for electricity from the city of Karlsruhe

Do you mean the Stadtwerke Karlsruhe? It should be 900 euro at 2,600 kWh.

Thank you, yes that really can't be, I'm trying to reach someone there and ask someone to appear to have it checked. But does it cost something? Or is this service on the house. Thanks for your tip. Hope would also work despite Corona

These commercially available "decalcifiers", which simply have a cable wrapped around the pipe, are absolutely ineffective, so google it, there's a lot of information on the Internet. I would refuse to contribute to the electricity costs. Unless it is actually a built-in water treatment system with a decalcifying function.

The boiler should always run continuously; the temperature can be regulated, but should never fall below 55 °. Otherwise, bacteria can easily multiply in it and cause Legionnaires' disease, which is very dangerous. If you let the water in the boiler get cold again and again, you would otherwise need forever to heat it up again and the electricity costs would be hardly lower than if you let it keep warm at 55 ° C.

Yes, exactly right. I try to call them and currently go through my measurements. Can't be

Exactly, so the boiler is hanging on the wall, integrated into the wall in the power cable. So I can't check how much it eats if I borrow such a storm device to check it. The boiler is decalcified every 2 years by a specialist, the specialist says that the boiler would soon be broken because it is already too old according to my landlord for 10 years it just looks new from the optics, way color high gloss, but it still works. These lousy diseases. Madness.

It only costs something if everything turns out to be okay. And if you don't like the result of the check, go to consumer advice.

Yes very much.

If you want, you can also find out from the tenants' association how often your landlord has to have the device descaled and replaced. Not that he'll leave that old thing hanging there forever.

Constant hot water temperatures below 60 degrees ensure salmonella and the life-threatening legionnaires' disease. Not a good idea!

Consumer advice, okey, then I'll give it a try and wish you all the best 😊 Thank you for that

Mketerbund tells me what but that also counts, thank you, the boiler has been hanging for 7 years now and, as far as I know, is 10 years or more old. Every 2 years it is decalcified and an installer comes separately

Yes, I know that among other things Because I've had a quarrel with my landlord because he had set the hot water temperature centrally on the heating system to only 40 ° C. I explained to him the problem with Legionella and he was stubborn despite everything (although his wife, who also lives in the house, even has a pre-existing lung disease!) And kept the temperature so low. I then took action against him with the help of the tenants' association and only since then has he set the temperature to 55 ° C. We measure every week so that it stays that way; otherwise the tenants' association has promised him legal action. Alone you are often at a losing position against such stubborn heads, and the tenants' association has often helped me there. That was just one of several examples.

Huii, but what did that bring him in the end? Save electricity, energy and money? Or just enforced his ego. Strong, but as far as everything went well, I will definitely inquire about the ancillary costs, electricity, how far I will be helped, I'm really curious. Thank you for the great tip, stay healthy and all the best 😊

Thank you I wish you that as well!

Yes, he probably wanted to save electricity. He's stingy by nature, and he's stubborn too:-) But then he came to his senses after all. Some only learn it when you "threaten" a lawyer. But better late than never, right ;-)