Good laptop up to 450 euro?

I'm looking for a good laptop, with the best possible performance up to 450 euro.

I use it for surfing, home office, online poker, and possibly DJing. Thinkpads have been recommended by friends?

The large selection nearly kills me. Does anyone have any experiences, suggestions?

Search on ebay a used Thinkpad with at least 8GB RAM and SSD

One of them should be enough:

https://m.notebooksbilliger.de/hp+250+g7+6hm80es

https://m.notebooksbilliger.de/hp+15+db1104ng

Top for the price must still windos install

https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/...g7+6hm83es

Otherwise top for the price

https://www.quelle.de/p/hp-15-cw12-notebook-39-6-cm-15-6-zoll-amd-ryzen-3-512-gb-ssd/AKL10107929130#sku=6598724984-0-10107929130&ref=mba&nav-i=2&nav-q=hp%252015%2520cw12&nav-p=T0&els=true

I can also recommend this: https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/...PD_BwE:G:s

It ships without Windows. I recommend to install Linux Mint. DJing is also possible, the free DJ software Mixxx is also available for Linux and can be installed via the package management. Mixxx supports every sound card, over 100 DJ controller models as well as timecode sound discs. I would save the music to an external hard drive. Best as MP3 with 320k.

In addition to the main decks, there are also freely assignable sampler decks for effects, a microphone deck and a preview deck for headphones. A broadcast feature is also integrated, so you can stream your live mix over the Internet like a web radio station.

Here is the download of Linux Mint: http://mirrors.evowise.com/linuxmint/stable/19.2/linuxmint-19.2-cinnamon-64bit.iso Then flick the ISO with this tool https://www.balena.io/...io/etcher/ on a blank formatted USB stick. Then boot the stick.

This device has a UEFI where you can also disable secureboot. If the secureboot is disabled, Install Linux Mint.

My brother also has this laptop and he also uses Linux Mint. It works fine.