DISTRIBUTING THE INTERNET IN THE HOUSE?

Ka
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I have a problem.
the following:

I recently got the gigabit line from Vodafone. (By cable)

1 gigabit per second should be 125 megabytes per second unless I'm wrong

as soon as the laptop is directly on the router I reach about 700mbits which is very satisfactory.

the problem is that we're all surfing the internet a lot and need that speed.

since it is a single family house and the boys like to gamble and who have no chance with Wi-Fi, I tried powerline adapters that are 500mbps strong, which in theory should bring a maximum of 60MB / s.

unfortunately it is not even 30mbits arriving here with the boys (1st floor via powerline)

afterwards I tried it on every socket on my laptop and measured it everywhere. Unfortunately without real success. Highest rate 70mbits per powerline.

I now thought that I would buy a switch port and could pull a LAN cable into every room. The only question is what I pay attention to with regard to the speed so that at least of these 700mbits 100mbits arrive in every room.

4 Lan cables should be laid and the router and the cable where the Internet comes from should be pulled up to the attic (since the house connection from the cable is in the basement and there are only cable channels to the attic)

the router should then be in the attic, including the switch… From there, the boys' rooms are directly underneath and there should then be laid 4 cables each to the individual consoles and computers.

first of all the question of whether this is such a good idea and what I should pay attention to.

the next point would be to use a repeater with Wi-Fi on the ground floor for eg prime stick and the cell phones.

I looked at it:

AVM FRITZ! WLAN Mesh Repeater 1750E (Dual-WLAN AC + N up to 1,300 MBit / s (5 GHz) + 450MBit / s (2,4 GHz), German version) red / white https://www.amazon.de/...00N80IK88/

and here the port

Netgear GS608-400PES 8 port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch https://www.amazon.de/...00PGQCGF0/

Would be very nice if jmd could give me tips

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Can you please explain what the boys need 30 Mbit downstream for gaming?

Wi

Did you plug the Powerline adapter directly into a socket or into a multiple socket?

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You write every one of you needs this speed… What exactly are you doing that such amounts of data come together?

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For explanation:

It's not about the downstream you need, because even the 30 MBit you wrote about would be more than enough per device.

It is about the ping in milliseconds that is the latency, i.e. The response times of your clients to the servers via your provider.

Try it out and look at the ping values

httpshttps://www.wieistmeineip.de/ping/

And look at wieistmeineip.de how high the upload is to the respective clients.

In almost all online games you can also see his ping or latency when playing online.

If the latency is too high, then the game has to jerk.

However, you can have 20,000 Mbits downstream and still have a ping so high that you can't play online.

Reasons for this are, for example, a very low upload in Mbit or someone blocking it for example through BitTorrent applications etc. The upload.

Ma

Since it is a single family house and the boys like to gamble and who have no chance with Wi-Fi, I tried powerline adapters that are 500mbps strong, which in theory should bring a maximum of 60MB / s.

It will not work as you imagine.

I now thought that I would buy a switch port and could pull a LAN cable into every room. The only question is what I pay attention to with regard to the speed so that at least of these 700mbits 100mbits arrive in every room.

A sensible step in the right direction.

The switch shouldn't be a cheap model. There are models that can also manage G / Bit and so we would be at the main problem.

Should it be a managed or unmanaged switch?

With managed, you can control the bandwidths on the respective ports. You can also (depending on the model) also use filters, which is certainly not so exciting for the boys under the roof, but helpful to prevent problems.

This can't be managed and only distributes the requests for "I'm getting the most" principle.

Some switches from HP can only be added to the costs (unmanaged around 100 euro and managed (8 or 16 ports) can cost 200-300 euro and more.

4 Lan cables should be laid and the router and the cable from where the Internet comes should be pulled up to the attic (since the house connection from the cable is in the basement and there are only cable channels to the attic)

Schonmal Löblich the whole and exemplary. With the cables make sure that they have the "installation cable" variant. It's best to use Cat 6, just buy crimping pliers for the plugs (costs around 15-20 euro), matching plugs with shielding and you can patch the cables yourself to save money,

Has the advantage that the plugs can't be damaged during installation.

The router should then be in the attic, including the switch… From there, the boys' rooms are directly underneath and 4 cables should then be laid to the individual consoles and computers.

Ok little thing is not a thing

first of all the question of whether this is such a good idea and what I should pay attention to.

-> Yes

the next point would be to use a repeater with Wi-Fi on the ground floor for eg prime stick and the cell phones.

That wouldn't work. Then prefer a cable from the attic (where the router is located) to the ground floor and connect a simple Wi-Fi router there, switch off DHCP. The devices get the assignment of the information to the network from the router that is under the roof. This minimizes sources of interference and possible influences. If you can do it differently, you can also run the cable from the attic to where it should, e.g. TV telly de can then connect via network

Then I looked at it:

Can only write, stay away from things. First plan and implement. When it comes to Wi-Fi, it should be the last option to be implemented. It is also possible to connect only one switch on the ground floor (Lan cable) where you can lay further lines to the destination.

If you have any questions, just contact me.

I don't bite and I can't write more than no.

I used to plan, set up and manage larger networks for companies.

The largest still exists today and includes 10,000 users who use it every day.

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Here is another small example to give you a better idea of what I mean…

Not even Netflix in 4Kbenog you 30 MBit / s

For HD at least 3.5 MBit / s (Amazon) or 5 (Netflix) and 6 MBit / s (Maxdome) are required. The still rare 4K offers make a real leap. Amazon estimates 15 MBit / s, with Netflix you have to get 25 MBit / s over the DSL line.

Ka

Direct socket

Ka

So they wanted to download games that have 100 GB

Ka

Everyone downloads a lot but that's a minor matter or

Ka

A managed would be better or? At which every 100 mbit should be available, which should be enough for the only if just data volumes of. 100GB should be downloaded, it would be cool if you could simply set it on a pic or mobile phone…

but if something like that now costs 200-300 I would honestly not consider it because it is a bit too expensive for me…

what do you think what makes the most sense so that everyone is equally entitled at the same time

Ka

It's also about the downloads

Ka

Found the one here what do you think is the good one should be enough I think

Just found on #eBayAds. How do you find that?

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/hp-1820-8g-j9979a-gigabit-switch-web-managed/1354742178-225-1828

Wi

Is the router set correctly and which router port is used? Perhaps there's a throttling in the router port used. With my Fritzbox it was e.g. B. So that the full performance was only available on the 1st port. I would have to change that myself in the router settings.

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At 100 GB and 100MBit / s you need 2h and 13minutes to download one game.

Ka

Is it okay?

Ma

A managed would be better or?

If you want to distribute (safe and good), a managed is always the better option than an unmanaed.

Equality solves many a problem:-)

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I would say that too.

Ka

Can you take a look at it is from HP

I linked it up here

Ka

The router is from Vodafone and today was the technician because the performance is very popular…

Ka

The pings are fine I just want the download to match the ping just everyone should have a city Ilse line

Ma

I looked at the parts, they are old and can't do much.

https://www.bueromarkt-ag.de/switch_hp_enterprise_aruba_2530-8g-poe_plus_j9774a,p-j9774a,m-ausfuehrung:8-port;marke:hp.html

It is just an example of what it looks like. PoE (Power over Ethernet) is not needed. Therefore you can take them without PoE

Managed should only be possible within the home network, although there are some switches that can also be managed via the Internet. Pay attention there when buying.

Wi

It was clear to me that the performance was fully received, but there are 4 ports in the back into which you can insert a LAN cable and only one is unlocked for full performance. You have to activate the others yourself in the router settings. At least that was the case with me.

Ma

At 100 GB and 100MBit / s you need 2h and 13minutes to download one game.

Allocating the bandwidth is your thing because I don't speak to you again.

But with my simple DSL 200K connection I just need 15 minutes for 50 GB. My fiber optic is faster there's something like that in just 1 minute below. Provided the hops join in.

Ka

Can't you manage them over the Internet? Would the switch be enough for my project?

Ma

The Vodafone router is not an OEM or brand from AVM!

Ka

So I just checked again and it doesn't look like individual ports are set differently

Ka

Didn't understand what you want to tell me

Ab

The whole thing is technically very simple. What I don't understand is why should the router be in the attic? It makes more sense to leave the router where it is. Pull up a cable and have a switch there.

Contrary to Silberfan's statement that such switches cost 200-300, it is not so. Even from Cisco there are Layer3 models from 65 euro.

https://geizhals.de/...ml?hloc=de

Ka

How can I set it because I mean, for example, if you want to go to the router, that's internal, too, I mean it with the Internet… So it doesn't have to be online… Only when I want full power and my cell phone with Wi-Fi If there's a router or repeater on it, I want to change it briefly and change that… That is what I meant

Ka

The router should go to the attic because the MAIN CABLE for the Internet (TV cable) fits through the cable duct to the attic and a lan cable doesn't do that because of the big head…

Ab

Um, with the length of the cables, you should crimp yourself or lay glass. However, you would be back at costs in the range of 250 euro.

Ka

Crimping is not an issue I found the tool for it 15 euro including a few fingers that you use for it

Ma

A distinction is made between 2 networks

Internet that is managed by the router via a kind of bridge.
In-house network

It is possible to communicate with the in-house network via the Internet. This is exactly what should be prevented with the switches. They should only be configurable in the in-house network and not beyond the Internet.

Communication is established via the router that connects the in-house network to the Internet

I hope that the penny has fallen:-)

The switches can be configured on a PC via a kind of web interface.

Ab

Then you can leave the router in its place.

Ma

Hi, If you want to do something like that you should maybe say goodbye to a fritzbox in your head, because it doesn't have it.

A Lancom 6400 is more suitable for this, especially for simultaneous Wi-Fi access. A recognized business solution.

pa

So… And how does the expert explain how you can redistribute a cable internet connection without a corresponding cable router (e.g. A FritzBox)?

Ma

I simply overlooked it. Can happen. You are welcome to take on the job. There are enough.

pa

Admitted errors. I see improvement. We'll get you there:-)

Ma

That doesn't pull me down. This is due to my rapidly progressing disease, but I'm still fundamentally right. Fritzbox is what a two people. It lacks suitable caching, vpn and some important things. But for sure it is an enchanted telephone system. The providers pushed this through because they want to set up IP telephony and completely do without normal telephones. Every telephone customer should have internet in the future.