Doesn't matter who is spying on me (manufacturer)?

Un
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Huawei had been banned from the US for alleged espionage, but if you look on the Internet. It says there that almost all manufacturers carry out a kind of espionage. So it doesn't matter who is spying on me, so to speak, whether it's Hp, Huawei, Apple, Acer, Samsung or Honor. And there's one more question that can be spied on via the laptop / PC by the manufacturer or the manufacturer can't access it. If so, is it better on Linux?

ge

Linux is definitely more secure than Windows.

Un

So the manufacturer can access the laptop / PC and evaluate the data somehow or something under Windows?

Ca

What I honestly believe about Huawei is that Huawei had piped up to become the market leader and the US or whoever spread the rumor that Huawei would not become a market leader. That was also the rumor with Xiaomi. Xiaomi is supposed to also spy on its users. And Xiaomi is also threatening to become the market leader. With Linux, at least I've heard that it's supposed to be more secure than Windows.

Un

So it's more of a propaganda?

Ca

I can't say that, but I think so, since, from what I've heard, Huawei still says they would never spy. But actually every company is spying on someone, how else are they supposed to get data? I can be completely wrong, that's my opinion.

Ca

But as for your question about Linux and Windows, as far as I know, Linux is more secure than Windows

to

The problem always occurs when the source code is not available. You can simply program espionage without anyone noticing.

From this point of view, Linux and open source software are always safer, since you can check the code yourself or through a service provider if necessary.

It is important that not every telemetry that is captured is immediately a surveillance. With KDE, for example, you can voluntarily share the software's groove data with KDE (this is switched off by default). It's just about using certain features and crash reports.

With Windows, for example, every keystroke is sometimes transmitted to Microsoft. Nobody knows exactly what - possibly not even Microsoft itself.

The accusation with Huawei comes mainly from the fact that it is a Chinese company and therefore the probability is high that spy interfaces are programmed in or can easily be delivered via update.

If you want to be on the safe side, you should also replace the BIOS / UEFI with CoreBoot etc. But I don't give any guarantee that this will work. The manufacturer Purism, for example, delivers its devices with and with Linux as standard.

Un

So just for understanding. So if I buy a Huawei laptop and install Linux, nothing is transmitted to Huawei, right?

to

As long as Huawei has not programmed anything in the BIOS / UEFI, not. But I can't tell you that, because I don't know enough about what it can and can't theoretically do. But I think it's unlikely, so you should be safe with Linux on a Huawei laptop - as long as you can handle Linux.

mo

Unbelievable if Huawei would know my real name, although I have a smartphone from Xiaomi with an operating system from Google (Android).

Even worse, they also know my cell phone number.

So far only Microsoft has called me.

mo

I'm not at all clear what a manufacturer (that's not a German secret service) could do with data from my computer or smartphone.
When Trump banned Chinese companies like Huawai and Xiaomi, it was obviously not about smartphones, but about infrastructure technology for G4 and G5 … He wanted to give preference to American manufacturers.
Such technology works in frequency ranges whose signals can never propagate from the USA to China because of the curvature of the earth.
All that remains are satellites or cable connections.
It is no secret that a lot of intra-European data traffic, for example, is routed specially via the USA so that you can eavesdrop.

The claim that Huawai could pass data to the Chinese government unnoticed simply does not apply. As president, Trump didn't have to say which paths to take. His services have the means and the means to track it down.

As far as PCs and smartphones are concerned, it's a bit different.
Program parts can definitely be built into the operating system, which then also send content somewhere. As a PC user, this can neither be proven nor prevented.
As long as the software such as Windows or Android (although the core is Linux) is a trade secret, no specialist can recognize such spy software.
But Linux is opensource, which means that every program is openly available and can also be analyzed.
The risk of Trojans being built in there's almost zero.
If you still need certain dates? Sent then to detect software errors.
If the programmer is not aware of program crashes, he can't fix errors either. Is it allowed to call that "espionage"?

Bo

As soon as you analyze the outgoing traffic, you will always find out which data is being transmitted to the outside world. It doesn't matter whether it is open source or not.

to

Fortunately, most of the traffic is now encrypted. 😅