Which laptop for studying computer science 👨🏻💻?

Si
- in HP
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I will start studying computer science this semester. However, I still need a laptop.

I either want to buy a Surface Laptop 3, which is available in 2 versions

256GB SSD, Intel Core i5 10th Gen, 8 GB RAM 1,300 euro
256GB SSD, Intel Core i7 10th Gen, 16GB RAM 1,540 euro

https://www.saturn.de/...04906.html

Or

an HP Envy

https://www.mediamarkt.de/...43280.html

Here I have to say that I rather like the Surface Laptop visually.

Gl

For the price there's better:

https://geizhals.de/...at&hloc=de

Of

I'd rather buy a Tux. It's like that with you, but we mostly worked with Linux during our studies.

Va

Well, such a gaming laptop has really bad battery life

Gu

Ne has better than an office laptop because it needs more power. Since he only uses it for office, it is just fine.

mo

Basically you should know that a stronger processor also eats more energy and thus the battery is empty faster. An i5 is completely sufficient (study computer science yourself and have a Surface with i5). But as I said: Basically. I can't say whether this is also the case here. You should read that in test reports. I definitely wouldn't pay the higher price. You just don't need that. I do programming at home on the computer or at the university on the computers. On the Surface, however, the i5 is quite seldom and when it is.

Note: The Surface laptop you linked has "only" 128, not 256GB SSD storage.

Personally, I'm more of a friend of Microsoft's articles for study. It is suitable for use with a pen, etc. Simply better. Well, that's my opinion. Here I can only compare my Surface with the HP Pavilion of a university colleague. But you don't even need the graphics card in the HP devices for your studies. You have to make the decision anyway.

Ts

I would buy the cheapest used one with no operating system. Then you are immediately faced with a challenge in which you learn a lot.

mo

We don't in practical computer science and software and systems engineering.

Ti

There are also VMs and DualBoot

Of

No plan I studied applied computer science. Do not know how far that differs.

Va

Well, and for that he also weighs 2.4 KG and has a really fat power supply unit thought that you want to take something with you? Your back will thank you

Gu

What kind of one are you Back mimimi? Seriously?

Va

It's just not practical to carry a 2.5 KG device that is also very bulky. At 16 inches, it doesn't fit anywhere on the tables in the lecture hall, even if there's a presence again at some point

mo

Practical and applied computer science are practically (ha-ha) the same thing. So really very close to each other. But as you can see, it is of course different at every university. You can't say that in general.

Si

OK thanks for the answer.

Unfortunately, I don't have a computer at home.

In addition, it will be a bit difficult with the university computers because of Corona.

I would then use the laptop for programming, but I don't know whether a better CPU and RAM would be better 🤔

mo

Unfortunately, I don't have a computer at home.

In addition, it will be a bit difficult with the university computers because of Corona.

Okay, I didn't know the former, I ignored the latter. Then maybe you should consider taking the one with the i7. You don't need him, I don't mean that. But then at least it makes some sense to pay the extra charge.

I would then use the laptop for programming, but I don't know whether a better CPU and RAM would be better 🤔

Yes, as a computer scientist you will definitely need RAM. You will often have several programs open at the same time. Wireshark, 5 Linux consoles, GNS3, a terminal from the router somewhere, the Zoom lecture, your browser, Adobe Reader, possibly a development environment at the same time, etc. I would definitely prefer to use 16GB RAM. With that I would be definitely in favor of the 2nd version.

Mi

I'll throw the Thinkpad L13 Yoga into the ring: https://www.campuspoint.de/lenovocampus-thinkpad-l13-yoga-20r6s00800.html Quite cheap compared to your other candidates, but it also has the most important feature, the pen input. If you want to exhaust the budget, there's also the X1 Yoga, which is a very tasty one. https://www.campuspoint.de/lenovocampus-thinkpad-x1-yoga-gen5-20ucs03s00.html

Testing:

X1 Yoga (attention, a slightly older model with a CPU of the penultimate generation is being tested): https://www.notebookcheck.com/...711.0.html

L13 Yoga: https://www.notebookcheck.com/...642.0.html

Kr

Yes, and that one will NEVER do something like that AGAIN