For years now, I have regularly received offers to buy second hand "Gernalüberholter" laptops. In some cases, these are still relatively expensive despite their modest components. Often, for a simple machine with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core i5, more than 1200 euro are required. Often referred to as EliteBook.
However, these devices should not have been originally designed for private use as stated in the catalog. Rather have been used in schools for example.
Now I would like to know if these laptops actually have almost eternal life. The same is often the case in forums.
Who knows the difference or has an opinion?
I would be very interested, because I like quality. All my machines are already at the age of ten and are still running flawlessly.
In fact, the older models are designed much better. But even slower, not every software runs on it and often fans or speakers are damaged. I would refrain. From time to time there are very good offers at Aldi. This is always worth a look. Lease is a very bad idea. More in the blog Frauenkonto.de.
Even with used goods you have warranty and return policy, if you do not buy from private. And professional traders have a quality control and an interest in not ruining their reputation (or rating) by sending out broken goods.
Buying a device from Medion or Tevion may make sense when you need the most up-to-date hardware, but I would say who does not buy the box primarily for play is usually with a business notebook from HP, Lenovo and the like better served.
Thank you so much for your answer. Agree. I used to check laptops with very old technology on the internet. Some had even then even installed three hard drives. But in terms of weight, not really a notebook anymore. I think that was 6,5kg (!)
The biggest difference between a notebook for the commercial and notebook for private use is the fact that notebooks are suitable for commercial use for operation at a docking station, and the housings are a little more robust.
The performance is usually not so convincing for commercial notebooks.
At any rate, I would keep my hands off it.
Thank you for your kind reply! The result of my question seems to be clear. Accordingly, I will follow the advice.
From personal experience I can tell you the following:
There are already mostly significant differences between the "normal" notebooks and those for the Buissnes.
In the repairs of the devices from the Buissnesbereich I noticed the following points in particular:
The outer:
Mostly very high quality hinges made of metal (which is also logical, because when the monitors are made on the day 50x and are the extremely loaded). The same applies to the locking hooks (usually 2 pieces).
The case is often made of magnesium (is very stable and torsionally stiff).
Keyboard also made of high quality materials with good support without weakening in the Nachfederung.
High quality power supplies.
Paint also high quality and durable against abrasion.
The inner:
Rarely pressed plastic knobs on z.b mouse buttons and pad. Screws and metal springs are used instead of plastic rockers.
Inner shielding very elaborately designed.
Substructure z.b under the keyboard very pronounced, thus no teetering or fatigue.
The cooling system well thought out, mostly completely made of copper with high quality quiet running fans with good bearings.
Almost everything is screwed (also where other notebooks only Plasiknippel take over the bracket). I fixed my notebooks because the motherboard was fixed with only one screw, the rest were plastic pins. At high-quality Buissnesgeräten it felt like 1000 screws.
The power sockets were well screwed and usually have several anchor points (thus higher plug-in interval possible)
Where I could not find any differences was when using CPUs, no special selection.
The use of screws and metal mount has the advantage that material is not so quickly fatigued by temperature changes.
All this is also logical if one looks at times profanely what the difference of use is between Home and Office.
The hardware used is designed for stable long-term operation. Therefore, usually no blast CPU but solid Intel CPUs mostly from the ULV or LV range with snug iGPU. TFT displays with high viewing stability instead of fast response times. Inverter with very good individual components. Cable routing (especially those to the TFT) very stable and unbreakable laid).
Also, the visible BIOS contents are usually kept thin, you can't go wrong.
In the sum of things, real Buissnes devices certainly have their advantages in the office area. However, I find that such old devices are not worth the prices. You should not spend 1200 euro for old technology even if the material around it is TOP. Again, counting the inner values.
An 8 year old device would have to do its service for another 8 years and also meet the demands in another 8 years to make the price worthwhile. But in 8 years I can buy 2 more office devices for 600 euro each.
Here is a nice link to what is suitable or intended… Lenovo:
https://www.nofost.de/thinkpad-serien-vergleich
Another small comment:
For pricing, MSRP 3000 euro is a recommendation of the manufacturer.
In fact, the devices would then be offered for 2500 euro, and if then a large leasing provider such as Horn & G… Took 1000 or more, the price was probably 1700 euro.
If then the now old devices are knocked down for 1200 euro that is a huge deal and does not correspond to the value.
I'm impressed! Everything covers itself completely with my personal experiences. The magnesium case on the Samsung, the 100 screws on the bottom. The display with two hoes. It can also be opened with one hand (has almost no limit when unfolding). The power supply is not even hand-warm and can handle even an overload of about 30% without problems. Others of my devices seem to have been designed at the desk. Display can be opened only very limited. I need both hands to unfold it. The Q9000 processor does not fit the weak graphics card, the hard drives are lame. The screen too heavy… So that the machine can even tilt. Well. 2005-2008 there was (still) nothing better for 1,150 euro- 1500 euro?! The keyboard is still working. Some were already exhausted after 5-6 months of continuous operation. The battery also runs after more than 10 years. Everything sounds coherent in my view. Many many thanks! J.
I think you are not wrong with a Buissnesgerät in the office area. But what scares me are said 1200 euro for an older device. I personally also have an old HP 2530p with Intel L9400 CPU and am also very satisfied. And the battery life is for the first battery with 400min. Still very good… However, I only paid 68 euro for the device (early 2018).
And your ca.1200 euro have apparently paid off. The fact that iGPU is not busy has always been with Intel iGPUs. For Office, however, sufficient.
Keyword "68 euro". I already have mice that cost about 70 euro. But then are also almost freely adjustable.
Oh yes, thanks for the addition of the one-handed opening of the monitor and its tip-over security. And not to forget the durability of the battery.
Wow. 70 euro for a mouse. I did not dare to spend that.
Whether this is worthwhile for me? I do not really think so because I do almost everything with the keys.
