Have for a colleague together a PC or rather two.
Would be nice if you could choose the better configuration or rate both, since I know basic things and can also assemble a PC, but I do not know very exact things.
His budget is 800 euro, where he wants to have a PC for home to gamble and a laptop or tablet PC for the school for example Libre Office. Does not mean the laptop must be the best.
He wants to play mainly on GTA V (Online) and Rocket League (Rocket League is running anyway, if GTA is running)
Actually, the conifgurations only differ from the processor.
Konifgurationen:
https://www.mindfactory.de/...19d59781e9
2.https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/3f763522155038cddb23822b287306887e5382100244b2eaf6f
Surely only a 24 inch monitor? Better would be a https://www.mindfactory.de/...37204.html *.
For 20 euro more would you btw also get a https://www.mindfactory.de/...67761.html *
* Are only a few examples of me.
And if it was one of the two confections, which one would you take? Question about the processors, if there's a bottleneck
I see two major deficiencies in the configuration. First, the M2 SSD is QLC and therefore not necessarily as a system disk. The fact is that QLC can handle much less writes and reads than the much better TLC SSDs. So with M2 SSDs that are intended for the system, always make sure that it is TLC and not like this QLC. What exactly is worse, you can google sometimes.
The second shortcoming will be that the power supply with only 300W will definitely not be enough. At least I would recommend a 450W in both cases. Ideal would be a 500W power supply. I've been building personal computers for over 15 years and therefore know a bit about it. Would I build the calculator, I would take at least a 500W power supply. Even if it were too oversized at the moment, you can buy a stronger Graka, and then you are glad that you already have a stronger power supply. Believe me, the people, where exactly calculate such a power supply and then take exactly this size then, have no idea of the practice. And still think that they are smart because they have read something about it. Equally stupid it would be the other way around. If you e.g. In the case, as with you now, would take a 850W NT.
What I also want to say, is the graphics card. Since I would at least take a RX 580, if not even a RX 590th It is also available from 180 euro.
A 27 "monitor would not be better.
The resolution remains at Full HD and the pixel density would be much lower.
One would have to keep at least a meter of distance between the eyes and the monitor so as not to be negatively affected.
Ok, that's why I'm asking extra, because I've written as in the question, not very much idea, just the basic things.
The graphics card of the Ryzen 5 2600 is sufficient as a processor. The saved money then stuck in a RX 580.
But with the power supply I would definitely use the beQuiet Pure Power 11 400/500 Watt. The current is not enough.
I have now put together something new:
https://www.mindfactory.de/...062369121e
Should I take the Ryzen 7 or is it that good?
So far so good. Looks much better. The SSD is better, but if I've seen it right, it's not a PCIe, but a Sata tailed, so it has no advantages over a normal 2.5 "SSD. This one would be better, link follows below. And as for the CPU, I can recommend the new 3600, especially for PC gamers. For this, however, you would have to use this AsRock b450 board to make a bios update from the dealer, or you still have an older AM4 CPU, with which you could do the update yourself. But the best solution would be in the case, an MSI B450 motherboard in the MAX version. They are already ready for the new CPUs.
I think a 24 inch monitor just too small. Probably because I'm just used to 27 inches.
Ok with the SSD I have changed, but with the 3000 series is then unfortunately too expensive. I own a 2600 but that runs next to me in the PC and does not want to take the risk that iwas not running anymore when I update the bios.
He just has a budget because we both still go to school and thus have no greater merit.
Think this is the final setup:
Cables are eig all there and everything fits so far in my opinion, or am I wrong?
Ok, I'm glad, is there an equivalent motherboard with the same price, which is not from AsRock?
I would recommend that, link follows. But just to understand again, I do not want to make AsRock bad, but what I've noticed so many years now is that the Asrock boards in and of themselves would be so good, just lacking just a good workmanship. This results in a not as long life as you can expect from a mainboard. On the other hand, I'm sure that many others are 100% satisfied with AsRock. Could also be that I have always got Monday boards, but I can't really believe it. So here is the link.
Okay. Now the last question about the Konfi: In the case is already a 120 mm fan pre-installed. How many extra fans should I install and what size 120mm or 140mm. And where exactly? At the front or at the top? I personally have 120mm Pure Wings 2 from bequiet I'm very pleased with them. PC does not overheat and is also quiet. But the question remains where and how many and whether 120 mm or 140 mm
2 fans should always be a prerequisite. The important thing is that you should pay attention to the Luftzirkulatin. That is, in the front, the air should be sucked in and back rausbalsen back. So always make sure to install the fans correctly. Most of the time, there's a small arrow on the fan, pointing to where the air is blowing. For a small case, the 2 fans should be sufficient. But of course the bigger the case gets the better the more fans are attached to support.
Does this mean that I just buy a 120 mm fan for this case, which is then mounted on the front, which sucks in the air?
That's exactly how I would do it.
Okay, then the configuration is complete, thank you for your help.