Host website yourself?

I want to make a little fun website with JS. I do the cod myself, but how should I upload the website?
I want to have a "normal" web name without paying. That means no bplaced or anything.

Is that possible / if so, how? (Only have a fairly old laptop if that's relevant)

That does not exist. You MUST pay for the domain if you want to have e.g.de.

Free hosting packages are available from bplaced, for example.

You could build your own server with a one board and host the site on it. (We recommend the rasberry pies

I don't care about the ending.
I just don't want to
bplaced. (website name) .com have that bplaced somehow bother me

You also have to pay for .com, .berlin, .net and blablabla.

Then you were unlucky. Whole domains aren't free.

So I had to buy a Raspberry pi there. He would then run all day for it, right? → I don't want to buy anything extra just because it's not really serious

You don't need a server for a non-serious site

With bplaced yes (limited web space for it) but there you have to pay for the "bplaced." does not exist in the url

If it says .bplaced, then it's a subdomain. Not a whole. By "whole domain" I mean something like http://www.deineAdresse.de

Whole domains always cost something. Subdomains are not.

True, I just would have liked to know how it works without an external site. Wouldn't let it run all the time to save resources, etc.

So I wouldn't get rid of the subdomains if I hosted the website on my own laptop.

And such a "whole domain" would be kind of cool, but if there's no other way for free, I will have to do it via bplaced

If you want to host it yourself on your laptop, then you HAVE to even buy the domain because then nobody will give you the free subdomain.

If you don't want to pay, take e.g. Bplaced and live with the xxx.bplaced.net address.

Thank you both, hope I didn't upset you too much xD

Well, I've now understood that what I want is not for free. Anyway, thanks again @triopasi and @ MrAmazing2

Because then nobody gives you the free subdomain.

So as far as I know there are free DynDNS subdomain providers.

https://www.dynu.com/en-US
http://www.duckdns.org/
http://www.no-ip.com/
https://ddnss.de/
Etc.

But how should i upload the website?

Uploading is very easy using an FTP tool

E.g. WinScp

https://www.google.com/...e&ie=UTF-8

I want to have a "normal" web name without paying. That means no bplaced or anything.

Of course, you don't get your own domain for free.

You have to pay to register.

Possibly there are some where you can use the domain Zeiteite for free, but the problem would be that the domain would then not be you, or advertising would be displayed on your site.

To upload you would of course also need web space - i.e. Storage space mostly including SQL, PHP and others.

Of course, you could also host the website on your computer, this would require server software

But then your computer would have to be running all the time and the computer would have to be made accessible from the Internet via your router.

Then the domain that you need of course would have to be forwarded to your IP

Since one rarely has a fixed IP privately, the fixed domain would have to be redirected to the dynamic IP via DynDNS or similar.

Does the site even have to run online?

Or is enough locally at your place - for handicrafts and practice.

HTML CSS and JS already runs directly in the browser, you don't need to upload this to use it.

If you want to use PHP, SQL, etc., you need a server

Then XAMPP is enough

https://www.ionos.de/digitalguide/server/tools/xampp-tutorial-so-erstellen-sie-ihren-lokalen-testserver/

Having to upload constantly, especially for development, is quite pleasant.

Why do you want to go to such a bad provider as bplaced?

Prefer to use Ionos or United-Domaims.

The ending (= top-level domain) is by no means irrelevant.

At

bplaced. (website name) .com

Is "bplaced" the subdomain ;-)

A real website is always priced under the subdomain "www"

And if you have input options (e.g. Form), HTTPS (SSL protection) is necessary

You host a real website… Should be called

I think a few things need to be explained to you.

With the hosters you always get xxx.host.tld, the one with bplaced.xxx.com is just nonsense. The http://www. Many websites offer them, but actually you don't have to do that nowadays. Nobody enters that anymore anyway. See e.g. In advertising.

Why bplaced? Because it's free. And 1u1 is not really good either, those are posts too.

Nobody has talked about HTTPS yet. Today, however, this is generally a MUST, even without forms. Today nothing works without it.

I think a few things need to be explained to you

🤔

What do you want to explain to me

You're just talking nonsense.

The domain and the subdomain are of course important and have a direct effect on the ranking of the page in the search engine.

There's seldom anything available on the internet for free

Bplaced also gets its money 😜

Without HTTPS, of course, as long as no data can / must be entered.

Incidentally, your own domain is not expensive at all, so no reason to want a free domain like this 🤣😂

Obviously, you have no idea what it means to host a website and what it means.

But if you think it doesn't matter whether a page can be reached under http://www.domain.tld and / or under domain.tld, do what you want, but don't be surprised if your website is badly listed because of duplicate content 😜

And if you think you get something for free at bplaced then go there🤣😂 Then you don't deserve better

Some are just so simple-minded and unteachable 👏

If you advise to do something without HTTPS you can't not take it seriously. Sorry

I think in the near future the Beowsers will totally oppose that. And because you're already talking about search engines - HTTP only damages the ranking massively. Just on the edge.

I know a domain isn't expensive. DE around 10 euro / year. But never said it was expensive either. Some TLDs are more expensive, but you don't have to use them

And yes, bplaced is free you smart talker. You have hardly any memory, CPU, RAM etc, but you don't pay anything in itself.

And that with the WWW: sorry, but you're still living in the 20th century. Even GOOGLE uses the http://www. Not anymore on some pages! That WAS a convention once, today it is used less and less. Sure, you CAN offer it, but you just don't HAVE to. Many simply redirect from the www variant to the non-www variant. But Google doesn't really care. At least in 2021.

Sure, you CAN host without HTTPS. But if you are not building the first page as a hobby developer beginner and want to be halfway serious, then you should use HTTPS. There are even technologies / frameworks where you have to actively deactivate HTTPS in order not to use it. In 2021, HTTP is simply out of date for pages on the Internet.

I never said that you can get the domain for free at bplaced, see my initial answer. You get FREE HOSTING + a subdomain from them. In itself everything you need to put a page on the net. I think you will get MySQL databases yourself and probably an SSL certificate by now. I'm not saying that there's nothing better / more sensible, I don't use bplaced either. But theoretically it is enough.

If you are writing a page and not using photos / videos, 1 GB is very, very much. You build pages with CSS - these are text files. A website needs at most a few MB of CSS, if not more than kB.

So as far as I know there are free DynDNS subdomain providers.

Yes

These are ONLY subdomains and not domains

And these subdomains are simply forwarded to other IPs at DynDNS.

Such a subdomain is in no way comparable to a real domain

It is good, for example, if you want to publicly access your devices at home (router, webcam, test web server, your own cloud, …) or to allow others to access it.

Code are also TEXT FILES. Code hardly takes up any memory. Sure, if you load any framework it takes a little more, but not gigabytes. At least not if you are really programming something yourself. WordPress is just a huge ship, in most cases to cross a 2m wide river.

Take a look e.g. Here https://www.mail.google.com/. Does that work for you? Or google something - it ALWAYS says which URL Google refers to with the Trefger. Usually this is without the http://www. Before. For example, if you google for "good question", the first hit is Girlfriend itself, with www in front of it. Then comes Wikipedia, without http://www. Then some hits with www, then Twitter comes without http://www. As you can see, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether you go to http://www.google.de/....google.de or google.de. The www is a relic from the old days. Can be done, does not have to be.

In IT you have to try to stay up to date. You don't seem to really succeed.

If you are writing a page and not using photos / videos, 1 GB is very, very much. You build pages with CSS - these are text files. A website needs at most a few MB of CSS, if not more than kB.

I did not claim otherwise

Of course, SSL certificates are used for professional sites

This is necessary simply because of data protection and forms.

This was only about a hobby site😉

They don't need cookies either and can therefore do without cookie pop-ups.

Professional sites - as yet - can't avoid cookies and are of course forced to use the unpleasant cookie pop-ups.

There's a huge difference between creating a hobby site and a company site

Of course, you can put a hobby site online with the bplaced subdomain.

Only once in the clutches and blinded by the free one quickly concludes any kind of contract and runs into a cost trap.

If you know that - o.k.

Otherwise, you should consider a sensible and, for the future, inexpensive and sensible package.

A DynDns and its own web server with XAMPP also do their job for first steps and costs nothing either😉

You need the storage space on the computer for your data anyway, except that you don't have to load it into the network first

And especially with PHP development or even SQL, it is annoying to have to switch or update between local files and online again and again, since PHP and SQL can't be tested and changed locally in the browser like HTML and CSS.

So

There are different options YES

And each has its price

And each your right

For a page that should really be found easily on the net and should also be safe, there's actually only one.

A provider who costs the data in Germany - at least in Europe, with security, correct domain, fast server, …

Only something like that is neither free nor comparable with the conditions of a private website.

But there's nothing more frustrating for a private developer if he is first attracted with free and then gradually realizes that he has fallen into a cost trap.

Perhaps this clarifies the matter better now

The additional effort for SSL today is, however, often almost 0. You can use it on the hobybite if you are not a total beginner.

You don't even need DynDNS for the first steps. You can also test on XAMPP. Incidentally, it is not even intended to be accessible from the Internet, so you should definitely refrain from doing that. With XAMPP you can even run and test PHP locally. With all other technologies it is just as easy to develop everything offline. You absolutely do not need a webspace to develop. (Unless you want to test the domain config etc, then sooner.) It's just not accessible from the Internet, but the development environment shouldn't be that anyway.

Otherwise, the nice thing is that you can easily move from one provider to another. You don't have to stay with bplaced once you've started there. Maybe you shouldn't conclude a paid 10 year contract.

I'm aware. I've already explained that.

But if it has to be free, then he can take a subdomain. I don't think he minds that much.

🤣

Of course it works

https://mail.google.com

This is the subdomain of the Google mail service 🤣

This is not the same as http://WWW.google.de

There are also pages with subdomain m for mobile (which has actually become superfluous thanks to Responsable Design.

Or ftp.mydomain.de for FTP Zuhang

…

Why should Mail stop working on Google?

Even if Google did not invent the Internet, and to some extent dominated the WWW, they of course also know how to use subdomains correctly. After all, you use your knowledge to rank the Internet pages of the world in your search engine in a meaningful way 🤣

How so? You can also use sub-subdomains. If you absolutely want the www because I have no idea why. You should see that it's a website. Some also put the www in front of other subdomains. It's also pretty unnecessary, but it works.

But as I said: When you search Google, there are also many pages without www at the top 😂

Or do you know the completely unknown Stackoverflow? Look what you are using, for example.

As I said: You are still doing what you did 20 years ago. The world is developing, IT is moving much faster. You can't stop.

You can also test on XAMPP. Incidentally, it is not even intended to be accessible from the Internet, so you should definitely refrain from doing that. With XAMPP you can even run and test PHP locally.

What you don't say 🤣

And you mean I don't know?

This is my daily work, only SEO you will never be able to do locally and inaccessible from the web.

On the one hand, the tools do not even come to your local server and, on the other hand, it would not be possible to compare them with competitors.

By the way, I recommend XAMPP for PHP pre-development, for HTML and CSS you don't even need XAMPP

A simple browser is sufficient

In addition, an editor such as Notepad ++ and the browser's developer menus are completely sufficient for the start of a homepage 😉

I assume, however, that the questioner can also access his website from e.g. Also want to reach Mobil

To do this, of course, you have to make the page accessible from the Internet.

He probably wants to show his page to friends and that the page can be reached by Google 😉

You suggested bringing XAMPP into the Intermet via DynDNS. Ergo, I have considerable doubts whether you are aware that this is a no-go. In terms of safety, this is a complete disaster. But of course, this is irrelevant for SEO. You don't have to worry about security.

I tell you You can use XAMPP for PHP. You don't need any web space.

You can also access XAMPP with your smartphone within the network. No problem.

But XAMPP should definitely not be put on the Internet. Very stupid idea.

You also don't have to explain to me how to use HTML, CSS and PHP. I "speak" that fluently alongside various other technologies.

As I said: You are still doing what you did 20 years ago. The world is developing, IT is moving much faster. You can't stop.

🤣😂

That's what the right one says

First you will find a URL like mydomain.bplaced.com

Well

Mydomain would be the subdomain here

Then you think it would be progressively to use the domain without www.

So without a subdomain

🤣😂

Just for fun

Reaching a domain without a subdomain is not a modern option

It has always been possible.

On the other hand, the WorldWideWeb (also known as the WWW) is well known everywhere, which is why good companies always have a http://www. - Use address

Those who do without the subdomain also forego the possibilities that the subomains offer.

Correct use has not harmed anyone😉

And if you had looked closely, you would also have noticed that Stackoverflow also uses subdomains - just not consistently and not consistently.

But thanks for an example of how to do it wrong 🤣😂

You can also learn from negative sides

But of course, this is irrelevant for SEO. You don't have to worry about security.

You really have no idea

Oh really? You suggested bringing a DEVELOPMENT SERVER to the internet. Sorry, but this is absolutely not a good thing. No chance.

I say yes - do you know, for example, the extremely unknown stack overflow? Look what they're using. No http://www as standard. But yes, you do. According to you, at least.

I didn't say you absolutely need it, it is better to use it correctly.

You won't want to claim that Stackoverflow is a normal website Internet

This has nothing to do with a professional corporate identity.

And if you could read correctly you would have seen that I didn't start with DynDns.

But since you don't know the difference between a proper website and stackoverflow

And can't read

Discussing further with you is wasted time.

Play elsewhere

Oh, because Stackoverflow is something special you don't need the www? My goodness, finally believe me. This has nothing to do with correct use. This is also not stipulated anywhere. This is something that has become common in the past, nothing that is technically or otherwise necessary.

Seriously. Explain to me why you supposedly "need" it and why some pages like e.g. Stack don't need it because they are special? Isn't the stack now professional or serious enough?

Finally stop trying to compare apples with oranges

And to your beloved side

😱 if this is a showcase page from you then everything is clear 🤣😂

To-do list with SEO optimizations

https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/stackoverflow.com#language
Very important!
https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/stackoverflow.com#performance
Very important!
https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/stackoverflow.com#performance
Very important!
https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/stackoverflow.com#page-title
Important!
https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/stackoverflow.com#page-content
Important!
https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/stackoverflow.com#images
Important!
https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/stackoverflow.com#headings
Tip!
https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/stackoverflow.com#external-links

What is different about Girlfriend or Google from e.g. Stack? Why do they need www but stack is an exception?

If you say you can't find Stackoverflow on google, then you're not in the tech industry. You always find Stackoverflow pretty high up, if not at position 1.

And I'm pleased that you can click on the SEO Audit in the browser. Much of it obviously plays a rather subordinate role for the ranking in practice.

PS: Uff, take a look. According to the site, Google also has a pretty bad SEO score.

https://freetools.seobility.net/de/seocheck/check?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgoogle.com%2F&crawltype=1

Do you notice what nonsense that is?

Seo is no nonsense

For example, a company must Be found not only by their name, but also by their keywords' good ranking.

That takes a lot

The correct url is part of it

Content is the important part that has to fit.

Incidentally, the example of Google is of course pointless.

For one thing, nobody searches for Google but uses it

On the other hand, the word Google is of course always in first place on Google 😉😂🤣

And probably even with the competition

So again, don't want to compare apples with oranges.

We're talking about normal websites.

That you don't know how the internet and Google search work - o.k. Your problem with which I can't help you in the best will.

Ask Google - they'll explain it to you 😂

Today, however, the additional effort for SSL is often virtually zero

There's NO extra effort

Only with some providers additional costs because the registration is not free and some providers pass these costs on.

But with new contracts this is usually already included automatically and is collected again via monthly costs.

So no extra work, just extra costs

You also know that a modern search engine doesn't rank pages based on a few cheap metadata, do you?

Obviously there are sites that, according to you, have problems to be found but still appear at the top.

You are very much overestimating the information on the site you have provided. That only makes up a FRACTION of the ranking.

You will consistently find pages at the top with a bad "SEO Score". Simply because some of them are so well known or the content is so good.

As I said, a search engine rates such tiny details less today than it did 20 years ago. Today there are much better approaches to analyze the content of a page.

Have you ever heard of Lets Encrypt? Additional costs = 0.

But it's nice how well you know your way around. Lets Encrypt has only been around for a few years, you can't expect it to be known to people who don't live and work in the here and now.

You are also aware that a modern search engine does not rank pages based on a few cheap metadata, or

How did you come up with this nonsense?

Of course not

Apart from the title, the metadata does not use much for your search.

Incorrect setting of the language or errors in the responsable design and unsuitable mobile pages, on the other hand, are very noticeable, as it quickly comes to 30 to 70 places that can be wasted.

Therefore, such metadata is not uninteresting.

As for the metatext.

This is exactly what Google usually shows when searching (not always because there are other display options for good pages)

It has no influence on the ranking - BUT it does on the click behavior of the user.

Therefore - the better this fits what you are looking for, the more likely someone is willing to click on the page.

If it only says "Hello, this is our site", hardly anyone will click on the link

And if you think I'll be found - it always depends on how!

Almost all pages can be found using their name (domain).

OK. There are also some who are unknown to Google or who are actively hiding from Google.

That's not art either

I don't think that's an art - you can, as far as I know, apply to Google to be excluded from the search results.

What nonsense are you telling about here and now

I didn't say that SSH always costs something - just that with some providers you pay extra for it.

Didn't you learn to read?

So I don't know any provider where you pay extra for it, apart from the fact that it may not be included in free packages. As I said, it's actually now available for free.

Why do you want to request this from Google, you can simply set that yourself.

You probably have no idea how to properly set up a web server, otherwise you wouldn't be babbling nonsense about applying to Google.

You live in the past 🤣😂

Of course you can adjust that. But you can also set it up on Google.

But supposedly it's an art. According to you

Do you know how crawling works?

If you do not prevent crawling on your server, a crawler will always find and analyze your site via external links (if there's one for your site at all).

Besides, I don't understand why you want to exclude your site from Google 🤣😂

Neither do I. But that was a comment from you that it was an art.

And yes, a Cralwer is nothing special. Building a simple one is partly a task for novice programmers. Just so that you can classify it.

I'm not talking about building your own 🤣 but building that of the search engines

And such a hobby programmer naturally excludes good sides, because they have no place there.

And if you think you could compete with your hobby crawlers with Google, there's of course much more to it

keep on dreaming