Which of the laptops makes the most sense for the price range?

A middle-aged acquaintance would like to pick up a laptop, the only concrete request is the size, which should have 17.9 inches, money margin is 300-350 euro (pain limit 400 euro)

I once flew out a few, and would like to know which of the price-performance-wise would make the most sense, I know with processors not so good, and have no desire to compare all the painstaking…

these would be the candidates:

https://www.otto.de/...=637258826
https://www.bueroshop24.de/hp-17-bs025ng-notebook-43-9-cm-(17-3-zoll)-489702?srpId=a9ddbbf2eae7995d0336435f81a2a38e&lkz=225732&obt=9&krypto=3WngkJ0jn%2FhJ8RBYt3p%2FVwp1s5FlzAlGZNduCfw4cI1puntSZMtjQRxz78G%2BX%2F%2FHEUluLLcMZDaRBeqTdBMVJmwnB%2F9Qt1rIKb%2BXW9SU1aDf9ojIHxJNTU6UlNQHm5FT#text
https://www.bueroshop24.de/asus-x705ma-bx014t-notebook-43-9-cm-(17-3-zoll)-616072?srpId=0a41559fd061137adbeed38e1bfb2ba5&lkz=225732&obt=9

I repeat, I have picked out this very roughly in no time, if you can offer me something better for the price range, that would be even better…

All 3 scrap, all have only one HDD and no SSD. And I would never give it up, even on such a low budget.

A Pentium is alright, Celeron is already very slow…

Edit: Best to retrofit an SSD, there's unfortunately no one in your price range, which already has it. Ne SSD does not cost 50 euro

Can you recommend something to me up to 400, -? Use only for multi- / socialmedia…

I myself have a 400 euro notebook (which was sold to me in the shop by the way as a "gaming" notebook). What can it be: Overstrained with the operating system alone. For the price range, you get nothing good. Glad if I can watch YouTube videos without laggs in 480p. Twitter lied anyway as otherwise.

I do not know what you want, because I think the Lenovo 320 is good and perfect for your needs.

It takes 1 minute until he starts up because he has no SSD but if you have time and is patient that is i. O. I also have no SSD and get along!

For under 400 euro you get nothing better.

Must it be 17 inches? At 15, the choice is much larger.