1,400 euro gaming PC + monitor?

And indeed I would like a 1,400 euro PC including monitor.

(Play standard games like GTA V etc in full hd).

Since I'm very unsure about the components and I can't really decide, I wanted to ask here times what you can recommend to me so.

(I can also build a PC myself.)

In addition, I would like to be able to look into the PC, so with viewing window. A subtle RGB lighting could also be present, but not necessarily.

In addition, I would like to have a very quiet PC because I currently have a laptop and the louder than a starting Kampfjet Armada at night and I'm so annoyed that I want to hear now nothing more from the PC.

Furthermore, I would like to have a very good airflow in the PC so the air around the PC does not heat up as everything is very compact in my desk area.

I would be really grateful if you could help me.

Zsm version:

-1,400 euro gaming PC including monitor

-Games highest settings

-Sichtfenster

-Decent RGB lighting / garkeine

very very quiet

-very good airflow

-Wlan and Bluetooth capable

-Can build zsm myself

Since I'm on the road, I can't link anything, but later I like to put together a wish list on Geizhals.de together.

In the budget, I would definitely target a 144 Hz monitor, so you should therefore expect about 200 euro.

Combined with a Ryzen 5 3600 and a Custom RX 5700 XT this should definitely be a good combination!

With the motherboard I would advise you then to the MSI B450 gaming pro carbon AC, since it comes with W-LAN and Bluetooth, but generally also has very good quality and it is future-proof.

You still have to update the BIOS on the motherboard, but that works without a CPU on the board!

Plus:

a fast 16 GB dual kit DDR4 RAM with at least 3000 MHz and max. CL16
as housing the fractal design Meshify C, for a good airflow
A Be Quiet Pure Power 11 500 W as power supply

As far as cooler and storage are concerned, I can only give you recommendations later.

The best will be, if you build your own PC on one side and pick out special silent parts there. Then you know immediately whether the parts are compatible and how much power your power supply needs, etc.

You can also order the parts separately on some pages.

userbenchmark.com I can only recommend you very much.

I guess with the budget you come on about such a setup:

RTX2070 Super (or the AMD equivalent - but without Raytracing - think that would be 5800XT)
AMD Ryzen 7 (3 … X) (or the Intel equivalent)
16GB RAM (at least 3000 Hz)
250GB-500GB SSD
1-2TB HDD
WLAN / Bluetooth card

finished. Housing, etc. Can you choose as you like.

Monitor, I would recommend you one with 144Hz. Depending on your quality or performance.

I personally have a BenQ / Zowie

https://geizhals.de/...WL-1310521

Have you ever put together one. I have similar ones myself.

The monitor is highly recommended, but do not forget the money for keyboard and mouse. Say what you may not be good and I can change it.

Nvidia and her raytracing does not matter, as there are only a few games that support this.

The motherboard is unfortunately not Bluetooth and Wlan ready, as far as I know. But since there are just under the available money, you still buy NEN adapter, which is always expensive on Mb s

LG Adrian

ps, i think it's cool when the other people come in and give their opinion here

Seasonic weather is usually overloaded with up to 30%, and 10 years is guaranteed, which is not the case with BeQuiet

Seasonic are the best power supplies you can get, though! I think 550 watts but would be enough, the PC consumes even when overclocking only 450 watts. 😃

By the way, great compilation, yes. The questioner should only consider whether he prefers Full HD with 144 Hz, or WQHD with 144 Hz.

So here's the confi:

https://geizhals.de/...WL-1310599

The whole thing is now a bit over 1200 euro, but that fits in with the Ryzen 7 3700X!

But if you say now that this is a bit too much, you could save on the SSD / hard disk space, for example.

Since you can still retrofit a lot!

The monitor has wqhd u. So definitely something for the future.

Thanks for the kind words;)

I'm not so reckoned with the power supply, but I believe you. I thought the xt card consumes a bit more power than normal…

😃

Oh, better! I did not even know that there are WQHD + 144 Hz already for less than 300 EUR… The times were 500+ EUR…

The 5700 XT needs 230 watts under normal load, but some peaks can reach up to 300 watts.

The CPU normally needs 65 watts when overclocked, maybe up to 100.

The 5700 XT is significantly more economical than the Vega 64, thanks to 7nm production. 👍

Ah, then everything fits!

Yes, I did not think so synonymous with the monitor…

The technology is getting cheaper…

Thanks for the clarification hehe!

@AnDenFragesteller pack you prefer then a 550watt power supply of Seasonic pure;)

Many thanks for your response. What I ask myself now with the 5700xt and the Msi b450 g per carbon, how does all this look with PCI 4.0? What I mean by that is the "loss of performance" especially big? Or, is there any loss of performance at all? And what about the b450 board by asus (rog strix e gaming)?

There are a handful of games where you might have 3-5 FPS less, but that justifies no extra charge for an X570 board!

If you want to compensate for this, you can try to overclock the RAM up to 3600 MHz, as Ryzen benefits relatively much from RAM speed.

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The ASUS B450 E board would be a pretty bad choice too!

It is not as compatible with Ryzen 3000, but to get the BIOS update you need an older CPU!

Not on the MSI board, as already said!

It also has no Wi-Fi / Bluetooth and the VRM design is significantly worse!

Do you notice the difference from 60 Hz to 144 Hz? And what about wqhd compared to full HD?

So the comparison 60hz on 144 is emens! Can I only recommend - as far as your hardware also manages. What will be the case in this case. Especially with shooters are 144hz very good. Go to the media market, and look at 144hz compared to 60 times.

To wqhd, depends on which games you play. With very elaborate games on wqhd you will not reach 144hz but it is still playable on the highest settings. And it is clear, the higher the resolution, the more divided the picture!

Well, more Hz has convinced me, but WQHD not really. How do you like this? https://geizhals.de/...47097.html

PS: I have only 640 mm space left on the table, so I would say max. 600mm for the monitor.

Other suggestions desired.

I looked around a bit and it came out of here https://geizhals.de/...WL-1311023

Why did I change something?

Power supply: The power supply of Be Quiet was unfortunately only part of Modular.

Case: I have found a cheaper and larger case than the Fractal Meshify C, with almost constant product properties.

-Sata SSD: For 20GB less storage capacity 13 euro saved.

What I added:

-CPU cooler: The boxed cooler is good, but since I want to overclock and it quietly like is for 33 euro a 230W TDP cooler the better choice (or I see that wrong?).

Case Fan: For better and faster removal of heat from the CPU cooler.

So the changes are almost all pretty bad or just unnecessary, to be honest.

I'll cover all of them, so it gets a bit longer:

Power supply: The power supply of Be Quiet was unfortunately only part of Modular.

The power supply is not really much better and it makes absolutely no difference if the power supply is fully modular or partially modular!

Because with a partially modular power supply, only the 24 pin mainboard and 8 pin CPU power cables are permanently connected. You have to connect these either way, so your reason is void.

I would rather recommend the Be Quiet Pure Power 11, since this has a much lower susceptibility to errors than the Seasonic Focus Gold Plus.

Case: I have found a cheaper and larger case than the Fractal Meshify C, with almost constant product properties.

The housing by no means has the same product properties!

Sure, the number of fan and hard drive spaces are similar. But these are the ones in almost every case…

What makes the Meshify so recommendable is just the most crucial difference between these two cases!

In the Meshify C the front consists of a mesh dust filter, which allows a much stronger airflow, because the air can be sucked in almost unhindered through the whole front! By contrast, your hardware almost suffocates in the Pure Base 500, so do not be surprised about relatively high temperatures.

-Sata SSD: For 20GB less storage capacity 13 euro saved.

Yes, and also a hefty amount of quality and functionality saved!

So you seriously want to put on your SSD, so your system disk, on 2D NAND storage, if you could also have 3D NAND?

3D NAND has a distinctly higher reliability / longevity in terms of potential errors. In addition also a lower power consumption and simply also faster data rates.

I would never prefer a Kingston A400 to a Crucial MX500.

-CPU cooler: The boxed cooler is good, but since I want to overclock and it quietly like is for 33 euro a 230W TDP cooler the better choice (or I see that wrong?).

The thought is not bad, but the cooler already!

If you read through the reviews alone, then maybe you'll see what I mean.

Enermax writes "Silent Edition" on it, but in order to reach this 230 W TDP, the fan is anything but silent!

In contrast, even the floor cooler remains much quieter!

If you want a really quiet, but also powerful, cooler, there's no better choice than the Scythe Mugen 5 PCGH Edition:

https://geizhals.de/...at&hloc=de

Or the Alpenföhn Brocken 3:

https://geizhals.de/...at&hloc=de

Case Fan: For better and faster removal of heat from the CPU cooler.

Since you have a fan behind, and above all, a front.

If you want to cool as efficiently as possible, but also as quietly as possible, you should not obstruct another fan!

That would end up being just another source of noise for only 1-2 ° C less.

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I have now taken over your case, monitor and cooler suggestion for the confi:

https://geizhals.de/...WL-1310599

and would recommend that then according to your wishes only so!

Of course, I can't stop you if you want to take the bad / unnecessary hardware, but then be it.

PS:

If you really want to Silent, I would not take a normal mechanical hard drive, as the course will also be a source of noise.

Instead, you could invest the money in a 1 TB SSD instead of 500 GB:

https://geizhals.de/...at&hloc=de

For starters, this would definitely be enough and if you want to Black Friday or the still coming days of festivities then determined an upgrade in the direction wish / buy.

Question, what are you doing now with the PC compilation?

Thank you so much! Your answers are always very informative!

In the case I would rather take the meshify.

The SSD is now a bit complicated. I would call the 1TB SSD from Crucial.

But now I do not like my games on C: Now I'm thinking how it is best of the P / L ratio and if it really makes sense.

My Thought: The 1TB SSD I would take as D: and therefore I would need a new SSD for C: Now I ask myself the question: 250 GB or at least 500GB

Of the P / L ratio would be the 500GB SSD at 114 euro / TB and the 250GB SSD at 153 euro / TB, which would be a clear victory for the 500 GB SSD.

But now I ask myself another question: Do I ever need 500 GB for C:?

That was planned on C: Applications such as Firefox, Opera, Adobe, Microsoft Office, etc. Come on D: then all games and accessories such as Steam, etc.

The 500 GB SSD is available from 57 euro and the 250 GB SSD from 38 euro.

What would be better in my case?

I find the Konfi of Neroshu better because I get for almost the same money, more power (see CPU). You helped me a lot in my search for the monitor!

Okay, you know you have to make a bios update on a b450 mainboard for the Ryzen 3700 first. Please do not forget this, otherwise nothing will happen before that.

I know, with the 3600, right? (Motherboard has USB flashback, so without CPU bios update, and if there should be a mistake, a buddy is still NEN 1600 rum)

Oh! Then everything is perfect. I would recommend you then but another x470 mainboard. Since they fit a bit better to the beast of CPU. Look at https://geizhals.de/...04453.html

Even has Wi-Fi. Is something better equipped… And looks a lot hornier

X470, I have actually already considered, because most boards but no Wi-Fi, I would rather buy a wireless card, do you know it?

It depends, I send you a Fa, then we write there