The second one is definitely better.
What do you want to do with the laptop? If you only want to do Office you get even cheaper devices, if no HDD is necessary.
Otherwise, I find 17 inches a little big, especially in the poor resolution.
I need him for Office, Netflix, youtube, surf the internet, play smaller games
The HP device has a more powerful processor installed and is also a bit cheaper. The combination of a 1 TB HDD + 128 GB SSD is also not bad and 8 GB of RAM are also completely sufficient. If you do not intend to play with the device, the laptop would be sufficient in any case.
Okay, then you're better off with the second one! Do you need so much memory or does a single 256GB SSD suffice? Which games do you want to play?
Supi, I want to play sims for example and normal internet games and the big hard drive I need for pictures and and and and…
Okay, then I have a better proposal! This one has an even faster CPU and graphics unit, so you can easily play Sims3 and Sims4, as well as the SSD is bigger and you have a much better display!
https://www.otto.de/...=762210927
My girlfriend bought this notebook for Christmas, so I can recommend it to you in good conscience!
Exactly the notebook I would also recommend, with the 3 times stronger graphics unit you can start much more and enjoy the game with higher details and frame rates!
The HP laptop is better. He has an AMD Ryzen 3 2200 with a clock frequency of up to 2.5 GHz. So you can start much more than with an Intel Pentium processor only 2.3 GHz clock frequency. The graphics card so the Radeon Vega in the HP is also significantly better than the graphics card from the other laptop. But do not think so right now that you can play with GTA 5 on the highest graphics settings. I just wanted to tell you as an example. Certain games will run smoothly on the HP laptop, but you do not have a huge choice in terms of performance for those who need high-performance games.
