I'm looking for a laptop for Windows xp (games)?

Ge
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I'm currently looking for a laptop that should run XP without driver problems. (I have an XP CD myself)

Furthermore, games such as Counter strike source and Far Cry 3 are running.

I doubt that the internal graphics unit will range from an Intel processor.

The budget here would be 650 euro.

Bi

Anyone who meets the system requirements.

If necessary in a VM.

ca

There are used devices that were produced between 2001 and 2014.

From 2010 it will be difficult, but it may well be that one or the other device no longer has XP drivers.

Ge

Unfortunately, I have found that VMS cause problems with 3D games.

Bi

Well… Just set up the VM sensibly. But it doesn't have to be a VM. See my answer. It consists of two sentences, not just one.

za

If it should be enough for FarCry 3 … I think less ;-)

Ge

I'm aware that the only question is which graphics card would be sufficient.

ca

Ne 9800M GTX it should be for Far Cry 3.

Bi

Just look at the system requirements for the game in question.

ta

So a retro gaming laptop?
Guess it won't be cheap.

Modern devices are out of the question simply because of the hardware support or something as banal as the lack of an optical drive.

Only ebay & Co and classified ads should help.

Since the two titles are compatible with Steam Windows 7, they should run on Windows 10 without any problems.
Possibly. At best, problems could cause copy protection mechanisms on purchased CDs / DVDs.

As an alternative to buying a retro gaming laptop, it could be cheaper and less annoying to buy a current gaming laptop and purchase a second copy of the games on Steam.

za

The topic is that usable devices are usually in such a bad condition from this generation that they are either defective or are about to fail…

11 years of notebook repair experience.

In case of doubt, recommend looking in the direction of Lenovo T400 up to a maximum of T410 (15 ") or the 15.4 versions" T500 "and" T510 "… Some of them also have dedicated graphics units… But you said that the integrated units would be enough for you.

Newer devices (Tx20 and higher) already have driver problems with older systems than Windows 7.

ta

I'm not up to date:
Which VM supports Direct 3D or 3D accelerator functions properly? A few years ago I hadn't had a good experience.
Has something happened in the meantime?

Bi

So that means something dedicated with 4 GB RAM.

Ga

I still maintain 3 PCs with old operating systems because of the variety of reasonable software that no longer runs on 64 bits. So I can't recommend a used laptop there, they are all only available on 64 bit. With a PC, you can spice things up a lot (for example, I laboriously upgraded the RAM for my 20-year-old DELL). The Dell has a great sound card and 3-D graphics, which you could just use for the respective processor. And now I can play Monkey Island or similar class again.

Ge

Unfortunately, it won't be enough for complex games.

Ge

It may be, but it's about the feeling, as stupid as it may sound.

Diablo 2 e.g. Simply makes more of a buck on an XP.

On the other hand, you could still change a lot about this system.

A current laptop is out of the question, but thanks.

Bi

It doesn't have to be a VM.

Otherwise VM should have this from workstation 6.

The question for the games mentioned does not fit because they also run on current operating systems.

Buying old hadware here would be more.

Since Far Cry 3 wants some power (and the GTX 9000 series was previously recommended)

Nevertheless, even the intel HD615 should theoretically be enough. Or something Radeon Vega 8-like.

Finding something suitable is difficult if you don't know a budget.

Ge

Thanks for the tip, this would be 650 euro.

ta

Nope. It doesn't sound stupid, just "expensive". 😉

From what I observe in the retro scene, coal is really made loose for old hardware.

Ge

Oh damn.

Bi

Then take an Acer Nitro 5 AN515-43-R09N.

There's about 650 euro, has a Ryzen 5 3550H, 256 SSD and a GTX 1050ti

Or an Acer Aspire 5 A515-54G-52HW.

The is about 50 euro cheaper, but has a new i5-10210OU, 512 SSD and an MX350.

Both without an operating system and 8GB RAM.

Ge

Too weak for a current laptop, unfortunately too strong for an XP, since the graphics card will hardly run, and the 8GB will not be usable.

Bi

Please what?
Just do what you want. You won't believe anything anyway.

Ge

Because I bring arguments?

Ah yes, okay.

Bi

No, because you bring flimsy arguments and only need XP "felt".

"Feelings" can't be met with facts. So you have to do what your "feelings" tell you.

Ge

Where did I speak of feeling please?

That I would have ever mentioned this would be new to me.

Why is it not an argument when I say that the laptop would be too new for an XP, among other things because of the graphics card and the 8 GB?