Buy an old upgraded laptop?

Does anyone have experience with laptops that are cheap and upgradeable to buy or to build yourself? (16GB ram etc) Needs one for music production

I don't know anyone who builds a laptop and I would only upgrade the SSD.

What do you want to upgrade?

You can swap ram and hard disk, but that's it.

it remains an old box

There are many completely refurbished, certified laptops on the Internet. This is called e.g. Reteq. I've only had good experiences with it. It's a good deal cheaper like new equipment and better for the environment

Build laptops yourself. That would be something completely new. And what you can upgrade is RAM and HDD to SSD. That's it.

I guess music is not quite as memory-intensive as films, it depends of course on the quality and number of tracks, but most of the laps should be able to do that.

If you expect suggestions, you should always state what you want to spend, that is a criterion if you are looking for a used one.

I'll give you a list of new devices, 15-17 ", FullHD 1920x1080p, 8GB RAM, 256 GB SSD maybe they are not as expensive as assumed?

https://www.hardwareschotte.de/hardware/preise/catid_110005/preis_Notebooks?pfpd=11,1920x1080-_57,R%242274877906944%2422199023255552%2423-_484,R%24229.34%24246.86%2421-_727,R%2428589934592%24268719476736%2423&srt=preis

Thanks for the answer,

400-650 euro makes sense if I get one

i 3 with 256ssd and upgrade it to 16gb ram and 1TB hdd? Or is i3 not recommended

Here's one with a Ryzen 5, 16GB and 512GB SSD for 600 euro brand new

https://www.hardwareschotte.de/preisvergleich/Hp-15s-eq1667ng-241Z1EA-p22187923

So I bought a Lenovo Miditower i3 with originally 4GB RAM and was surprised how well everything went. I'm not a gamer, only office and multimedia, internet, programming and online trading are handled by it. I then upgraded to 8GB, but that didn't make it any faster