Bought a new laptop and a PC?

Sc
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I bought a mid-range laptop for 700 euro about 5 months ago. I really like this from the performance, but the problem with the thing is that the battery does not take part in all the conferences currently taking place and so I have to recharge the battery 2-3 (!) Times a day… That somehow makes no sense, because it is quite annoying to have to charge the thing for 30-40 minutes every time…

Do you think it would be worthwhile to buy a PC with the laptop? I would then spend around 1000 euro on the PC so that I can play some games and get by without loud fan noises, even if I have 5-6 tabs on.

Gu

I would say either, or, if you prefer a PC then buy one, if you don't want to spend that much money then don't.

Fi

You can also use a power bank (approx 30000mAh), this is a mobile battery.

Sc

But then the battery is still loaded too much, I still have to charge it 2-3 times, or the waste heat from the hardware combined with the warm battery is definitely not good for the laptop either…

Gr

Yes, you can put together a box yourself in the Alternate Shop, see PC configurator. The expert software checks your configuration, suggests changes, if necessary, the technicians will consult you.

Sw

Do you think it would be worthwhile to buy a PC with the laptop

At the moment it is not worth buying PC hardware at all, but otherwise it is

Would then spend about 1000 euro for the PC,

That doesn't get you very far in the current situation, everything is way too expensive

Sc

Do you think it's proportionate if you bought a laptop six months ago and then swapped it for a PC (at least at home)? I just don't feel like charging it anymore and hearing the fan after opening 2 Google tabs… I can't even play my former favorite game, because that's what the laptop is not really made for…

P.S: The fan noise is a problem that many other users also have, so nothing can be done about it, unfortunately it is apparently set at the factory

Sc

Are the components much more expensive? I had the impression that everything was going to be cheaper

Oa

What kind of notebook do you have? I find it kind of weird that you have to charge your battery so often just to attend conferences. I have a Macbook (and yes I know it can't be compared to a 700 Euro notebook) but I may have to recharge it every 2 days and use it for Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator or Adobe Premiere in addition to attending online classes.

Fi

No, but when you connect the power bank, the PC no longer draws its power (correctly) from your battery but from the power bank. And then you can carry out your "charging" outside of your socket!

Sc

I honestly think that you don't really understand how it all works… The only thing you could do in this regard would be to remove the battery and run the laptop via cable, but I really don't want to lose the warranty unnecessarily

Sw

https://geizhals.de/...TX+3060+Ti you see a graphics card, the 3060Ti. The Uvp of that is 400! €

Ram and such has also become a bit more expensive, but the problem mainly affects cpus and cards

Sc

Hmm Alternate sounds really expensive… I think 950 euro for a PC with 8GB RAM and 250 GB SSD is already too much

Sc

I don't want to buy an (almost) high-end product right away xD the 3060 Super would be enough for me, but now that you say it… So if I could buy a 3060 Ti for 400 euro at some point, I would of course wait instead of a 3060 Super to buy… Do you mean prices will normalize in the near future?

Sw

3060 Super would be enough for me

They don't exist and probably won't be in the near future either

I don't want to buy an (almost) high-end product right away

The problem does not only affect new cards and Cpus. A few months ago you could get https://geizhals.de/...1660+SUPER for around 200, now it's already 300. The same with the rx 5700xt, a few months ago for 400-430, now for 500 -550 euro

Do you mean prices will normalize in the near future?

They will stay like this at least until summer, and they will probably rise even more. I even believe that the problem will drag on throughout 2021

Gr

I paid 800 euro with a 1TB PCIe hard drive, 64GB RAM and 6 core CPU.

You just have to configure it yourself. Choose no-name components that use the same chips. You don't need high-speed RAM either. Otherwise you only pay for the brand name.

Example, normal fan 15 euro, or from BeQuiet 85 euro, because of 3 to 7 dB (A) noise difference: -D

Admit it, you always listen to music when you're at the computer ;-)

Mi

But then you won't be in conferences all day. With a webcam and things running in the background, an MBP doesn't last for an 8-hour day. If I work a maximum of 4 hours.

Oa

Do you have the brand new MacBook with the M1 chip?

Mi

Nope, have a 16.

In the beginning I had an Air M1, but it never lasted that long.

Sc

No joke, I do a lot, I program more and more, gamble for an hour a day and unfortunately I have a lot of meetings at the moment haha

Oa

We have around 5-6 hours of meetings with our lecturers every day, during which the webcam is also running. I also use my MacBook a lot for Photoshop and Illustrator, which require a lot more power than our meeting program.

Sw

Example, normal fan 15 euro, or BeQuiet 85 euro

Be quiet fans don't cost 85 euro!

They cost a maximum of 25 euro each

You don't need high-speed RAM either.

With Amd Cpus, 3600mhz makes sense

I paid 800 euro with 1TB PCIe hard drive,

Ne hard drive is a hdd, not an ssd

Sc

Oh man… I'd rather stick with the laptop then

Sw

Would be better for now.

Mi

Do you have the display very dark? According to test reports, the part lasts a maximum of 9 hours with Wi-Fi and maximum brightness.

And video / webcam, for example, actually draws a lot on the battery.

Sc

Is the assumption correct that these graphics cards are simply bought up by large corporations immediately after their release and then keep most of them, for example to operate huge (bitcoin) mining works?

Sw

I paid 800 euro with a 1TB PCIe hard drive, 64GB RAM and 6 core CPU.

That alone shows that it is badly configured. You can only get full 64GB if you do such professional things as video editing, Photoshop, CAD and the like, as a normal consumer you never need them

Oa

I always have my display at 50-60%.

Gr

Are those things now Nvme, but you take it exactly?!

Sw

I have never really dealt with mining etc. So I can't say anything about it

Mi

Yeah okay, that's more realistic then. I always have that at 80-100%. Perhaps 50% of the time I have the evening in the dark.

At least with the Pro 16, the brightness below 50% is absolutely useless. XD

Sw

They are called Nvme now

Jupp ^^

Oa

I can't judge over this. But with my MacBook, 50-60% is usually enough for me.

Gr

I'm a mathematician and use the Wolfram Language to make him sweat, the RAM fills up very quickly with permutative Monte Carlo simulations, despite runtime dumping and intermittent Packed Array generation. Combinatorial problems just 🤷

Yes, even with occasional image processing tasks, I can confirm.

I also still prefer the Support Vector Machine over neural network classifications.

Admittedly, therefore customized for me.

Sc

Hmm okay… But it is certainly possible to wait another six months and then quickly buy a graphics card before they are bought out

Sw

But it is certainly possible to wait another six months and then quickly buy a graphics card,

you can now find ne 3070 and so on again and again, even a little often, but far too expensive.