What are the reasons for someone being contacted by a bailiff? What are the consequences for his roommate?

Qu
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My roommate is in a financial difficult situation. There's the feeling that he is not honest with me in this respect, I now often pay attention to the sender of his letters. The senders are visible on the letters. The letters will not be opened.

Now there's a letter from a bailiff in the mailbox. I'm now on alert: Is there any other reason besides an enforcement order that has become final?

Based on that: I will not rely on his all-clear / appeasement anyway. Do I have to close my room in a shared apartment so that no items are seized from my room? (Lease, but without room layout in plan, available)

What happens if I leave my laptop in the kitchen and the bailiff seizes it? How long will it take to get it back?

ga

So first, the bailiff must prove that the thing belongs to his client. Close your door and bunk your valuables there. It's easier than getting your stuff back afterwards. Since the room only "belongs" to you, you do not have to let it in there either.

But honestly? Talk to your MB. If he has such problems then maybe he can use someone with whom he can pour out. In addition, you live together, so you are also influenced by his actions and have in my opinion a right to know if and when a bailiff enters your common living space.

Ma

The reasons for the letter can be manifold, there's a problem with a potential pawn, you have to be able to prove that the items are your property, you can't say goodbye to them, the officer hears incredible stories every day and will not care let in, my knowledge comes from my circle of acquaintances, one is GV

Qu

I've talked to him about it before. He makes the situation less dramatic than it really is. He even bought a new cell phone about 2 weeks ago. My trust in these things is not really high.

Of course I will make the letter a topic of conversation.

Qu

That's exactly what I have in mind. I still have the bill of the laptop.

Is my room safe from a seizure? Otherwise, I would have to store the valuables with friends. This is suboptimal for me because I would like to continue using it.

ga

Sounds to me like he's still very young and does not handle his finances very well. Many who are about to move out and take on "responsibility" for the first time have such problems. Maybe he does not even want to believe it himself. Offer him to arrange the papers together with him. So you have a small overview and he is certainly grateful for your help in the matter. All the best to you two, bailiffs are not monsters and see many destinies every day. If you deal with him normally and explain to him "this is his, this is mine" you will not have any problems. In addition, only things that have a resale value are sewn. Since your laptop falls off depending on the age of the device again.

De

What does roommate mean?

If you live in a shared flat, everyone has their own household.

If you have valuables in the home that are attachable, you should always have a watertight proof of ownership at hand. So an invoice with your name and not a handwritten note.

In any case, you have nothing to do with a garnishment of the roommate. You just have to make sure that he does not cause rent arrears. Otherwise you'll be together in the street someday

De

The bailiff does not have to prove anything. If there's a giant TV in the apartment, he will first glue a "deposit seal" on it.

It is up to the residents to prove who owns what.

Qu

What does roommate mean?

Everyone has a room of their own. We share the kitchen and the toilet.

ga

However, since the apartment is not inhabited solely by the debtor. The GV has only a right to enter the rooms inhabited by the debtor. Even a GV may not simply arbitrarily move to foreign ownership according to its own discretion. Does it belong to the debtor yes, but you can't hold strangers responsible for what someone else has done.

De

You only need your proof of ownership

Qu

Is it enough if I present a lease in which I have not been assigned a special room? Theoretically, I could also have rented the pantry and the other rooms belong to the debtor.

However, I think that otherwise I could provide proof of ownership for the important things. Only 100% sure I'm not that I find everything.

Ma

Garnishment of course xD

Ma

Nothing of value is certain, but about some ancient devices, do not worry, cash, etc. Do not leave it lying around, it searches everything

ra

No. The bailiff does not have to prove anything. He may just take the laptop with him. Everything in the access of the debtor can be seized.

On the contrary. If something is wrongfully seized, the owner must go to court and prove that it belongs to him.

ra

Supplement for the otherwise good answer. Close your room and leave the laptop always in the locked room.

The GV can and will take him otherwise and you would have to spend time in court to intervene.

ra

But. The GV can and he will. It is up to a court to finally decide whether a seizure is allowed or not.

For exactly this situation, the law has provided for the third-party action.

Otherwise, a debtor could always say "do not belong to me." Proofs the opposite. "

When presenting a proof of ownership, the GV will usually look at a seizure. Not because he has to. But because in clear cases he wants to spare the court labor.

ra

In theory, you can also send an important document via GV. He is then "a better postman". Correctly.

But in practice this is so rare that it will not be so. If the author knows about the money problems of his roommate, the case is very clear that this is about a seizure or financial information.

ra

The most important is the property certificate. Because theoretically you could hide something for him. If then a second expensive TV in your room is without being completed and with him an unconnected Playstation without TV…

I think you can complete the sentence yourself.

Normally, the GV only looks in his room and in the common areas.