I'm currently in the process of buying a new PC (my first for 20 years, otherwise only laptops) and it will probably mean that I will assemble it myself. Now the question arises whether I should install / order AMD Ryzen 5 2600 + Graka or AMD Ryzen 5 3400G without additional graphics. The configuration currently looks like this:
ASRock B450M Pro4 motherboard
G.Skill DIMM 16 GB DDR4-3000 Kit RAM
Patriot Burst 240 GB Solid State Drive
Toshiba HDWD110UZSVA 1TB HDD
be quiet! Pure Power 11 400W PC power supply
Sharkoon TG5 tower housing
And then consider whether AMD Ryzen 5 3400G or AMD Ryzen 5 2600 + ASRock Radeon RX580 Phantom Gaming 8G OC graphics card
Alternatively, I have also found a complete PC that sounds interesting. https://www.systemtreff.de/Basic-Gaming-PC-AMD-Ryzen-5-3400G-4x42GHz-16-GB-DDR4-2666MHz-AMD-RX-Vega-11-Core-4GB-480GB-SSD-2TB-HDD
But it has a different mainboard. Briefly about what I want to do with the device. I'm looking for a new PC up to 600 euro (I don't want to and can't spend anymore), which I mainly cut for work and video (FullHD / 4K, but more FHD) and now and then for gaming from Minecraft, Forza Horizon 4 or Diablo 3 can use.
What is important to me:
at least 16GB of storage
Good GraKa
Wi-Fi (since I don't have a LAN connection in my office and the next router is 2 rooms further in the living room)
I would also like to be able to add or change components later.
If a monitor were included, it would be nice. But is not a must.
Monitor, keyboard and mouse are already there.
If you tell yourself that a "good graka" is important to you - how do you get the idea of "no graka"?
Then I would go for the R5 and GraKa. However, as a tip I would take the 1600AF, which is 30 euro cheaper and is practically the 2600 with a lower clock.
Because the Ryzen 3400G was recommended to me here earlier by someone without a graphics card, since it probably has its own GPU. I should then save in a quiet on a dedicated one.
Can FHD and 4K videos be rendered at a comfortable speed?
An extra GPU is essential for gaming.
There are also some programs for video editing where it is an advantage.
So in the sum of all things, a Ryzen 3400G is not a good idea.
The 3400G is only suitable for low gaming.
So your choice should be the Ryzen 2600 + RX580 8 GB. As an alternative, you should take a Ryzen 2700 / 2700x.
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Your finished PC is really pretty cobbled together. And there's not much with expansion.
Thank you once. Why shouldn't there be an extension on the finished thing?
I mean, you can buy a new motherboard later, if the money fits, that is compatible with the case and then order new, better parts from scratch, right?
If you say, as an alternative, a Ryzen 2700, then you definitely mean to take a Ryzen 2700 as an alternative, don't you? Because two Ryzen bring me nothing in that sense.
2600, the ram is too slow for the 3000 and the graphics of the 3400g are ok for youtub and minecraft.
How much do you want to spend?
As stated above. I already have everything for the 600th monitor, keyboard and mouse. I work on the Internet, so I need it most to work and edit FHD videos. The rest is so nice to have. I mean, I was able to play Minecraft on a Xiaomi Mi Pro notebook with 16GB RAM and Intel Graphics GraKa without any problems, as well as Forza or Diablo. A cheap computer should also fit there.
So with your statement above, do you mean a smaller version like the 2600 with a dedicated GraKa? The RAM is too slow for the 3000? What kind of RAM should I use if I buy the 3000 series?
If you don't want to upgrade later and are satisfied with 8 threads.
1231v3 incl board on ebay
32gb ddr3 1600
1-2tb ssd
1650 super graphics card
later not upgradeable, but realizable for 600 euro!
Upgrading should be at some point, or at least redesign. New MB, new GraKa and so on.
And thank you ever
Generally speaking, a PC without a dedicated graphics card is everything, just not a gaming PC. Even if the Vega11 graphics unit is the best there's, it can't replace an entry-level gaming graphics card. An RX 570 (entry-level gaming card) plays in a completely different league.
Playing without a dedicated graphics card is not a game but a rumgeeiere. But if it is enough for you to play games on HD (1080x720), then please. But don't think a Shadow of Tomb Raider or AC Odyssey will start at all.
And as for the Ryzen 2600, I can point out the new edition of the recently released Ryzen 1600. It is almost as strong as the 2600, only about 30 euro cheaper.
And when it comes to ready-made PCs, there are only two recommended addresses for me. http://www.hardwarerat.de or http://www.dubaro.de, are the only ones I know where you can get modern hardware for a good plv.
The parts are always interchangeable, depending on what you need.
The mainboard specifies which CPU and which / Weiviel Ram fit in.
Hard drive can be taken 99%.
Housing should not be too small and should be stable and quiet.
The power supply is of high quality, since it is twice as long and is quiet.
The graphics card is adapted to the CPU and Ram and of course the resolution and use. 600 euro new for image editing is a joke, because at least one important component is missing.
8 threads are also not the world with nem 1231v3 but the platform is super cheap and not exactly slow.
depending on what you're retrofitting, you can take it with you later.
in 3 at the latest 4 years, intel is revolutionizing the pc market anyway.
That's an answer. Well, it shouldn't be Tomb Raider and AC now. The above games are the only ones I play on my PC. The game is also only intended for the side. If necessary, I also have some consoles here with which I can play the games. The important thing is to just cut the videos and hook my normal work on them, since I earn my money with them. I didn't know about the 1600. What does "almost as strong" mean in this regard? I take a look at the shops, then I hear something new from them.
https://www.mindfactory.de/...790e0e4bc3
Makes sense if you are satisfied with 4 cores and 8 threads and with low FPS in the games if they are playable…
Since you are rendering videos, 6 or more cores make sense, and you definitely want to play the selected games smoothly. Therefore: the current 1600 should be the minimum, you can upgrade later, the graphics card is just what you can get new for your price limit. Maybe 50 euro more and the 1660 cards from Nvidia would make more sense (if you want to render with Cuda, you won't get around Nvidia anyway).
If this is your relationship to playing PC, then the 3200G will certainly be enough. And as I said, the Vega 11 is not that bad for an APU.
And as for the Ryzen 1600, the difference for you how you can tell them apart. I mean the old from the new. Because in terms of performance, they can no longer be compared. I think AMD shot itself in the knee and unnecessarily competed with the Ryzen 2600. So here is the difference.
Old - YD1600BBAEBOX
New - YD1600BBAFBOX
As I know, only the new ones are offered at Alternate, Mindfactory or Computeruniverse. But there are still many old ones on Ebay. And you have to be careful not to want a new one and get an old one.
Thank you.
In addition to the extremely bad components, you have to install a new power supply in particular when expanding, you won't get very far with the 400W power supply.
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Yes, of course, the Ryzen 2700 is intended as a REPLACEMENT for the Ryzen 2600 / 3400G. There's no mainboard where you can install 2 Ryzen CPUs.
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The Ryzen 2700 / 2700x is significantly better (especially with video / image editing) than a Ryzen 2600 / 3400G.
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The cheapest way is of course to build it yourself.
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Here is a 560 euro calculator (you have to choose the case yourself).
Ryzen 2700x… 8 cores 16 threads
(Ideal video machine (games are not a problem))
Motherboard B450 chip
16 GB DDR5 Dual RAM 3000 MHz
480 GB SSD
1TB HDD
RX570 8GB graphics card
500W BeQuiet
Well, it depends on whether you do it professionally or as a hobby. If you do it professionally I would go for the 2700X, cost around 150 euro
