What is an environmentally friendly laptop or PC?

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I wanted to ask which of these is actually more environmentally friendly PC or laptop. Because the power consumption of the PC is higher, but if something breaks you can exchange the broken one on the PC. While with a laptop you have to throw away the whole device.

Ch

When does something break, even after 10 years

Mo

I'm a laptop user and you just have to be careful not to break it.

za

None of them protect the environment anymore, however, smaller parts are built into the laptop and therefore fewer emissions are probably emitted during production.

Sw

I would also say that the laptop world is gentler because it needs less resources and because it also costs less electricity. But that with the power consumption is more different from laptop to laptop. I know that back then there was the most expensive gaming laptop from Acer that needed two power supplies. Therefore it can be that the most expensive gaming laptop uses at least as much power as a desktop PC.

Mo

I don't know how anyone in the world would discover that a laptop is more environmentally friendly than a PC. I can't even imagine in which feverish dream there are even the slightest arguments for.

A PC is expandable and repairable. If you need more memory you can simply add a hard drive, if the graphics card gives up you just have to replace it.
yes, a laptop is more energy efficient, but why? Correct, because it has less power (even if the processor name is the same) ergo it will age faster and no longer correspond to the state of the art.

In addition, the power consumption of PCs is so low that the difference shouldn't matter.

Furthermore, laptops have rechargeable batteries, so we don't need to discuss the environmental friendliness of them here.

The fact is: a laptop is an all-in-one throwaway solution. If an essential component breaks, you have to dispose of the entire device.

Mo

The electricity consumption is completely insignificant because electricity consumption = computing power

If you use less electricity, you also have less power and the device is ready for scrap more quickly.

In addition, the environmental damage caused by battery production should be many times greater than the power savings.

Mo

A battery is built into the laptop, everything is soldered and can almost never be repaired or expanded, that should actually answer everything

za

If you can't expand something, that's better for the environment.

There are also laptops that can be expanded a lot

Mo

If technology can't be expanded, it becomes unusable more quickly, your first statement is simply wrong.

There's no laptop with which you can change the processor or the graphics card, and very few have the RAM.

I have a PC with an RTX3080 but only a sixth generation i5. Plus new ram and power supply, the graphics upgrade cost me 1000 euro and only a few old components went to recycling. If I had a laptop I would have to buy a completely new one.
I have kept my screen, keyboard, case, hard drives, mouse, webcam, speakers, Blu-ray drive and much more and will use all components for as long as possible.

I would really like to know how you can come up with the idea that a laptop is somehow comparable.

za

Really?