Circuit problems in the living room?

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I've had an internet outage every 5 minutes since around 4 a.m. My PC is completely kicked out of the Internet while the router just continues to run normally. In addition, the PC monitor and mouse sometimes suddenly go out for a second or two.

I have a suspicion why this is, but I'm not an electrician.

I've had the large refrigerator and freezer in the living room since the beginning of January because I want to dispose of the kitchen piece by piece and then paint the walls. The refrigerator seems to interrupt the circuit or something for a short time or to decrease the voltage, I don't know! My gaming PC itself continues to run normally. But the screen and mouse go out briefly. And every time the refrigerator starts to cool. It makes a short click and cools, immediately when the click is heard, the screen and mouse go off briefly for a maximum of 2 seconds.

This is probably why my router is spinning around now.

In general, I often have problems with the Wi-Fi on the gaming PC (not at all on the laptop). I use a Wi-Fi adapter for him, which is a few years old now, but works perfectly. With every provider I have had the problem that the internet regularly fails for my gaming PC. But never every 5 minutes, that's new.

Problem 1 Wlan: Is it because of my PC or the Internet provider? As I said, the Internet works fine on cell phones and laptops as long as the router is not crazy. The only device that keeps getting disconnected is my gaming PC. That's why I operated it longer via LAN instead of Wi-Fi. It was faster and more stable.
Problem 2 electricity: I can't say more about it. Does anyone here know about electrics and circuits or voltages? It is annoying to gamble like that.

Si

My suggestion: pull the power plug from the refrigerator for 12 minutes. Cool your food somewhere else. With this you can lock out the refrigerator.

I wish you success

PS, if the refrigerator is the cause, maybe a good electrician can help.

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Problem 1 Wlan: Is it because of my PC or the Internet provider? As I said, the Internet works fine on cell phones and laptops as long as the router is not crazy. The only device that keeps getting disconnected is my gaming PC. That's why I operated it longer via LAN instead of Wi-Fi. It was faster and more stable.

I know that from my old notebook with the built-in Wi-Fi card… I used to have the same problem under Win7 and Win 10 … Then I used an ext USB Wi-Fi stick and it worked. Strangely enough, the internal module now runs problem-free with Win10 … However, the computer is no longer running 24/7, but only temporarily… So this may be due to the driver or the hardware. The only thing that helps is updating the driver or, if necessary, swapping hardware and trying another Wi-Fi stick / Wi-Fi card… It may also be an overly sensitive reaction to your current problem that has always influenced the PC. And thus to…

Problem 2 electricity: I can't say more about it. Does anyone here know about electrics and circuits or voltages? It is annoying to gamble like that.

It is not possible to tell from a distance whether it is voltage fluctuations or interference signals from the switching relay / compressor motor. But both can lead to such disturbances. You should also be able to see voltage fluctuations on a lamp (not an LED with a switched-mode power supply, but a conventional 230V incandescent lamp without a power supply. This should then become noticeably darker for a short time. Otherwise you need special measurement technology that can detect such fluctuations Devices are usually suppressed so that switching them on / off does not lead to mains disturbances… If this filter is defective or something else is no longer 100% correct, this can also lead to disturbances, which can have such consequences Network disturbances can always be responsible for your Wi-Fi problem, because the Wi-Fi module may react to it and cause problems… And now that the device is still connected to the same circuit, the problems are even more serious…

Am

It is vital to "gamble" and that the PC runs through… You can understand that… (or not)!

WLAN is only "Wireless LAN", that is, wireless network cable. The WLAN is generated by the router and replaces the cable between the PC and the router… This creates flexibility and freedom of movement. The Internet is fed to the router via a telephone line and if there's no Internet connection, zero point zero has to do with the WLAN but lies between the router and the provider. You can also connect two hundred PCs at home via WLAN without the router being plugged into the telephone socket… Then this network runs wirelessly. Devices that have switching contacts and draw electricity also cause interference from harmonics, which in turn can interfere with radio signals such as radio or WLAN at the moment of switching. As an accomplished "gamer" you should have general knowledge!

Regarding the electricity problem: when a refrigerator (freezer or refrigerator) starts up, it switches on its compressor (the soccer-like black thing in the back below). A compressor needs a lot of electricity to start up, just like a car does when it starts. As a result, the mains voltage at the socket or in this circuit briefly collapses a little at the start-up… This comes from the voltage drop on the line between the socket and the fuse box or something behind it! Due to the voltage drop, the devices switch off for a very short, but at least noticeable period of time… And you notice that.

With a little environmental awareness, you should know that you should turn off power-intensive devices such as larger computers to save electricity. Especially when it comes to absolutely unimportant things like "gambling". It doesn't have to be! But that's your business! Take an extension cable and look for a socket in another room: From there you take the mains voltage for the PC and the problem should be solved. It may be that you also have to "look for" something at which socket the problem is gone!

br

Change the circuit for your refrigerator. To assume that your apartment has more than one circuit.

lo

I would unplug the refrigerator for half an hour or an hour. That is how long the food can survive without any problems. If the problem no longer occurs during this time, I would say it's the refrigerator. Or does it trigger the symptoms.

the cause, however, should definitely be a loose terminal somewhere in the area of the electrical installation, namely in the area where the circuits of the refrigerator and pc converge.

the corresponding circuit or circuits should be checked by a qualified electrician. I.e.

screws on the fuses
screws on the terminals for grounding and neutral conductors in the distribution
screws on the electricity meter
clamps on the main line branch terminal
distribution boxes
screws in the sockets (if there are no terminal contacts)

that would now be what I would check across the board.

At the same time, a loop resistance meter should also be used to check whether everything is okay in the entire building.

the problem: a missing neutral conductor can very quickly lead to individual consumers receiving up to 400 volts in a three-phase network. In the case of an old installation with classic zeroing, the protective contact and thus all connected devices with a metallic housing are live!

already experienced both! So far, however, it has never had a particularly tragic outcome

vi

Gosh, where do all these stinker come from? Don't you have anything better to do?

Where did I write that gambling was vital for me? There are people who work from home, especially now during Covid. I work on a development team, I need my gaming PC and the internet to be ready for use. And if everything goes on playing at the end of the day, you are of course angry.

"As an experienced" gamer "you should have general knowledge!"

Gamers aren't electricians. Nobody "MUST" have anything as common knowledge.

vi

The refrigerator will be replaced this week because it is old, yellowed, constantly moldy and too big. Guess he's just dying slowly. Nevertheless, thanks for the tip!

vi

Speaking of other devices… You're right… When the refrigerator was still in the kitchen, the light flickered permanently. But this is an LED ceiling light. In the living (bedroom) room, the halogen ceiling light has always flickered every now and then. It got a little darker for a few milliseconds.

Si

And, is that the source of the error?

vi

No idea. I guess so.

Si

I would want to know immediately, otherwise you will start again with the new refrigerator…

Am

This has nothing to do with strength, but with the responsibility to use resources sparingly. The gaming PCs do not require little power and if you do not need them, you should also switch them off. You turn off the light or does it keep on?

Alongside my opinion, I also packed the answer to your question for you… You didn't refer to it; only complained about the not unjustified criticism! Already sad when there's a lack of decency to include at least a "thank you for the answer" in some form.