Why is it not possible to control the fans / coolers from a notebook?

sa
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I had bought a gaming notebook from HP, really a very good notebook, especially in terms of price-performance ratio and in games also very good for a notebook. The only thing that really bothered me EXTREME was. Where the fans always turned up as the mood took them, especially when gaming, it was Can't BE ENDURED. I've spent days looking for ways to regulate those damn kak fans. Really everything I tried didn't work out. I even went so far that I had stuck out one of the two fans, but the notebook caused problems when starting, "Problems with fan detected please do this" the blah blah and again blah. All laptops are own so I'm aware of that. I don't think I know of a laptop or manufacturer that uses quiet fans or offers software where you can regulate them. So I ask myself WHY is it so difficult for you to install quieter fans?! Or at least provide software where you can regulate the fans. I just find it pointless.

Vo

Make an invention that works like that. Shouldn't be too complicated, but you should also have a temperature on the display.

sa

If I were working in the field, this would be the first thing I would do. 🤣

go

Side tip: The fans have a purpose.
There's nothing "according to your mood".

Things spin up when the notebook gets too warm, this way it reacts to the load to prevent it from overheating.
Some manufacturers offer software for controlling (you don't have to invent that first), others allow setting in the BIOS, some do not allow it at all.

Either way, a reduced fan speed inevitably means a (significantly) lower performance.

And it is not difficult to install quiet fans, but impossible. The fans themselves are probably as good as silent, but moving air makes noises, that's physics and can't be avoided.
If you want to make it quieter, you only have the choice of the following alternatives: slower fans, larger fans or more space in the heat sink. The former works, the other two are not an option in the notebook.

If you want a quiet PC, buy a stand PC. And if that is still too loud for you, install a custom water cooling system, which can be done almost silently, but is also very large, maintenance-intensive and expensive.

go

If you didn't, you would fail just as much as everyone else.

Ba

Jep ever considered that gaming notebooks develop heat much faster than a normal desktop pc? They don't turn up to your mood, but to protect your components from overheating and mechanical stress

sa

Thank you for your detailed reply.

The question was specifically related to why it is so difficult to install quiet fans, physics or not. Or at least some software to adjust them. Whether there's less power or something else is not just about the principle. From these laptops. We're at a time when this should be kindergarten. I don't know any laptops that offer it, be it BIOS or software where you can control them. If you know any, you can tell me which ones.

sa

Yes, definitely. It's so difficult to make software for it 🤦🏻♂️. That has nothing to do with not being able to do anything but laziness or listlessness.

sa

No, I didn't realize that they warm up faster than normal PCs. Trz no meaningful answer. It's just a matter of principle.

go

Once again:
The fans are already (almost) silent.
The noise is made by the air, and it will continue to do so, no matter how great your fans are.

What you are asking is not a "kindergarten", it is impossible.
And that has something to do with physics, because even apparently simple components like the air cooler are complex physics.

And there are notebooks where you can adjust the fan speed, I have one here. You have to ask the manufacturer whether or why this doesn't work for you.

go

The software is there.

And a company does not decide against anything out of "laziness or listlessness", this usually has very specific reasons. HP can tell you what these are.

go

PS:

And such a software not only has to be able to control the fans, but at the same time also protect the user from his own (unfortunately mostly considerable) stupidity.

That is probably the greatest effort.

ti

It is not the case with all manufacturers. I have an older MSI Dominator. It is hardly audible at full load and if necessary I can set the fan curve in the "Dragon Center" and even set the fan manually to a fixed speed. It is even possible to overclock the graphics card a bit.