Excerpt from the parents' house. Can my mother get rid of my things?

fe
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Unfortunately I do not have a very good relationship with my mother (she never wanted to study, but immediately work for her), so I had to move out. On this day, I took all the important things (laptop, clothes, tablet) but wanted to pick up the rest (something like bike, computer, etc.) differently.

Today I called and asked about it, I was told, I would have said she could throw everything away or sell… The only thing she could have been my sofa and shoes.

I've definitely never said it, yet it stands against me, saying I have alzheimer's (of course, 20 …) and her new one (who's my age) even forbids me to come to them to at least get my other things.

Incidentally, my mother has now also incited my brother against me, because of what I need help…

I would just like to get my stuff, so now I think about it with the police to regulate… Only I do not know if that's possible…

I ask you… Tell me my things are not lost forever… I was already shocked by my expensive computer and bike. I would just love to save what is still there and no, my mother did not pay for any of these things. All the items in my room were paid for by me. The value of everything that has disappeared is now more than 5000 euro

Oa

Full report to the police.

De

If you had value on your things, you would have to take them with you.

Co

Counter question: Does your mother live on social benefits, such as Hartz IV or something?

fe

It does not fit all in a smart. I had to drive 400km

fe

It has no Hartz IV but very high debt, which they send every month in the high minus. She works as a cleaner in a kindergarten, because she moved from Poland to Germany and therefore did not find a decent job.

fe

My question would be whether that would go because or the police would tell me that I should have taken it immediately? Just because I was basically forced to go unplanned on a particular day, I could only take everything that fits in a small car. I would have a Sprinter for this week, but my stuff has disappeared

Co

These cases are not so rare. Proceeding under civil law probably only costs money. I had thought of an ad at the job center, which then sounds the mother. Either the mother then voluntarily issues the items or risks criminal proceedings for fraud. Of course, there's still the criminal charges for embezzlement. But if that brings anything, I dare to doubt.

fe

But in principle she has nothing to do with the jobcenter? She does not get a Hartz IV. But it is relatively bold to get rid of the stuff in principle and if I'm honest I guess she sold it. I could z.b. Not take my computer, but was not completely brainless and have taken the items (graphics card, latch, motherboard, hard drives). I suspect she has sold everything, even if she denies it.

Co

Yes, in that case it does not help. Was just an idea at first.

Oa

The police will not tell you that you should have taken the stuff before. There were reasons why you did not do that.

Do not come with ifs and buts now. Tomorrow straight to the police. Whether the things have disappeared, you do not really know. Your mother claims that.

fe

Of course, my real father and I want to go there anyway Sunday to pick up the rest of things. Whether she likes it or not, I would like to do that with the police. I just do not know if they can force my mother to let me in to get my things. If not, everything was pretty fast for the cat.

Oa

I think they can force them.

fe

I talked to a lawyer, but unfortunately she said it would not work, as seen in the answer above, and no, I can't get access to the apartment. It would have to be approved first everything, what would be a long, arduous way…

I really like the German legal system very much

Ox

Your mother is wrong in selling your property without your consent and withholding the proceeds from it. It is very easy theft and can be viewed in any case. She has harmed you and continues to do so by refusing you to pick up the rest of your belongings.

It does not matter that you could not take everything at once. So bang on case that does not work.

Offer her to refrain from filing with the police if she reimburses you for the equivalent of the property she discarded / sold and gives you the rest of her belongings (legally, you're the owner). Otherwise, indicate it.

What kind of mother is that?!

fe

Today we threatened her with an ad. Her statement: "You said then I can throw everything away, try it with an ad but in a statement against statement you will achieve anything, you can't prove anything to me"

In fact, my father is also unsure about it. He said it would be more costly to bring them to justice than to recover what we lost. I slowly do not even know how to deal with her anymore. Her problem is that she does not feel empathy. I know that since her father died and she did not even shed a tear… She did not understand that he did a lot for her and was actually important. She is very selfish and with such a person it is very hard to fight… But it can't be that we have no way. But we will talk to the police right away, to somehow get to things.

Ox

Your mother's claim is nothing more than a protective claim and does not give her the right to dispose of your belongings. Does she have it in writing? No. So she can't prove it.